We got paid (loa29, jpwa) to facilitate unity with NWA. If we are asked to facilitate unity with another airline we will again seek an improvement in pay and working conditions.

You mean what percentage of a raise, not pay cut. You spend negotiating capital on contractual items, not take concessions.

This is true. That being said the reason that NWA wasn't taking flow through agreement pilots in 07/08 is because none of the CP pilots met the requirement of being at CPZ for 36 months before flowing. Otherwise NWA would have taken them.

There were several "flow down" pilots on property at CPZ so the agreement has already worked both ways at least to a small extent.

The CPZ interview during those years was conducted by retired NWA pilots with the exception of one CPZ HR type. The interview consisted of a computer based technical exam, simulator evaluation (B727), and HR and technical panel. The interview was designed to mirror (at least in format) the interview that NWA was using at the time.

I'm not pointing fingers but I'm always amazed at the desire of DAL pilots to see the company abide by the PWA by the letter yet many posters here seem to attempt to find any loophole they can in this provision of both the CP CBA and DAL PWA.

Regardless of opinion about the concept of a flow through agreement the pilots hired by CPZ prior to sale to TSH were contractually guaranteed ( and affirmed by the FTA LOA) a position in training at DAL. I'm glad to see it working. The agreement to abide by this LOA changes the entire course of my life and that of my family (wife and two young children).

However, for the record no guarantee of a job at DAL exists. One must work hard and show up with a good attitude like all new hire pilots. The success of a FTA pilot once they arrive in ATL is only up to themselves.

I can't wait to get to DAL. I'll be the happiest SOB you've ever seen. A dream come true by every definition.


UA

Man that's low...calling someone out that isn't even alive to defend themselves!!

You missed the point.

You are correct. I should have been more specific about not including flow thrus. They are the exception not the rule.

Denny

The whales will almost certainly be replaced by... wait for it... 777-300ERs. Which at the least would pay the same as the 747.

He's talking about all the guys that will get displaced when that many positions on the highest paying equipment go away. I would argue they won't completely go away. There will be alt least some similar paying equipment to replace them.

Denny

Doh! 80 beat me to it. That's what I get for having fat fingers and typing on an iPhone.

Rumors from the MEC meeting of a TA. Thought you regulars would be all over it.

Oh, I thought he was talking about longevity based rates vs productivity matrix.