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Check Essential 05-08-2014 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1638803)
Our scope section defines what is a Delta pilot.

Theoretically we could redefine every DCI pilot who performs Delta flying as a Delta pilot. It is a political decision for ALPA (supporting the decisions reached autonomously by the Delta MEC).

Bar-
You're going one step too far. Its not a political decision for ALPA. At least not alone.

Management signs the scope clause too. Management is the keeper of the seniority list.

"We" can't define what is a Delta pilot unless they agree.

Bucking Bar 05-08-2014 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 1638794)
Rumor (maybe official in some printed material) that SLC will the first hub to eliminate all 50-seat flying. Should be out of the schedule by the end of 2014.

Something sure seems to be in the works for Skywest/Expressjet. They have "non permitted" types on order for the non union side. Expressjet voted down their TA and has been in limbo since.

Our MEC keeps secrets better than management. I'd say watch order books and crew room Q&A closely.

Bucking Bar 05-08-2014 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1638813)
Bar-
You're going one step too far. Its not a political decision for ALPA. At least not alone.

Management signs the scope clause too. Management is the keeper of the seniority list.

"We" can't define what is a Delta pilot unless they agree.

Absolutely true.

We are not willing to make that deal, yet. But we chipped away at it in Contract 2012.

Something else seems to be in the works now, I've not figured it out.

gloopy 05-08-2014 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1638815)
Something sure seems to be in the works for Skywest/Expressjet. They have "non permitted" types on order for the non union side. Expressjet voted down their TA and has been in limbo since.

Our MEC keeps secrets better than management. I'd say watch order books and crew room Q&A closely.

So SkyWest is going to fly the C Series…for what airline though? And permitted under what scope clause?

I actually hope they do IndyAir. They will swiftly and embarassingly get bled out. Atkin's free money FFD ego can't overcome the harsh realities of larger airplane branded flying, and their ain't no more aces anyone can deal him.

CGfalconHerc 05-08-2014 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1638815)
Something sure seems to be in the works for Skywest/Expressjet. They have "non permitted" types on order for the non union side. Expressjet voted down their TA and has been in limbo since.

Our MEC keeps secrets better than management. I'd say watch order books and crew room Q&A closely.

Was reading an article in AW&S about 6 months ago about Skywest's large order for Mitsubishi RJ's along with more E175's. They asked the Mitsubishi program manager about how the new MRJ's exceeded the MGTOW for all of Skywest's scope provisions with DAL. The program manager let the cat out of the bag when he said they would "just have dual certifications that would meet any required scope limitations".

ALPA needs to be on the lookout for pencil whipping! Skywest is desperately looking for a home for all those "non-permitted" jets they ordered.

Roadkill 05-08-2014 09:07 AM

Greenslip trigger question. Never had one, looking at my timecard like you guys said, and this month I had some pay/no credit things I guess, here's what it says:

Total CREDIT: 70.16 Bank OPT 1 Limit: 82:00

CREDIT APPLICABLE TO REG G/S SLIP PAY: 81:24 REG G/S TRIGGER: 75:00

So...What's that mean? Am I already above the GS trigger of 75 or do I still need 4 hours-ish?
Thanks!

boog123 05-08-2014 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by Roadkill (Post 1638842)
Greenslip trigger question. Never had one, looking at my timecard like you guys said, and this month I had some pay/no credit things I guess, here's what it says:

Total CREDIT: 70.16 Bank OPT 1 Limit: 82:00

CREDIT APPLICABLE TO REG G/S SLIP PAY: 81:24 REG G/S TRIGGER: 75:00

So...What's that mean? Am I already above the GS trigger of 75 or do I still need 4 hours-ish?
Thanks!

Nope, you are good. As long as your "credit applicable to reg G/S pay is above the reg G/S trigger, you are fine. If you are below it you have to fly another trip to get above it or borrow up to 5 hours from your bank.

Denny Crane 05-08-2014 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by Roadkill (Post 1638842)
Greenslip trigger question. Never had one, looking at my timecard like you guys said, and this month I had some pay/no credit things I guess, here's what it says:

Total CREDIT: 70.16 Bank OPT 1 Limit: 82:00

CREDIT APPLICABLE TO REG G/S SLIP PAY: 81:24 REG G/S TRIGGER: 75:00

So...What's that mean? Am I already above the GS trigger of 75 or do I still need 4 hours-ish?
Thanks!

You've already made the Regular line greenslip trigger of 75:00 with your 81:24 credit. You will be paid your 81:24 plus any GS will be at double pay. As long as you are on a regular line that is.....

Denny

Bucking Bar 05-08-2014 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1638809)
Bar, I normally agree with a lot of what you write but this is wrong. If he was working for Delta as a pilot he would be on the Delta Pilot Seniority List. S/he may be working for a company owned by Delta but that's not the same thing as working for the parent company.

It's not "another division" it's another company altogether. What company does their employee ID say?

They should both interview for the mainline job.

Denny

... and that is the way it is now.

But make no mistake, they perform Delta flying which we PERMIT to be outsourced in our Section 1. We define the operation and if you want to define it so that our "craft and class" must interview then you elect Reps who want that.

Meanwhile other groups of "craft and class," like managers, cross the arbitrary inter divisional shell game with no loss of longevity.

The price of preserving your distinction only costs one employee group, pilots.

It is in ALPA's best long term interest to rid this profession of alter ego replacement flying. Politically we are not there yet, but your world is changing, for the better.

Roadkill 05-08-2014 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by Dorfman (Post 1638706)
I have and it is pretty slim but DTW still has worse options specially based on hub size.

Totally wrong. DTW has 4 times the choices as T4, which is hands down the worst dining in the system. DTW has Max/Ermas, Coney Island, Online Cafe, that sushi place, 4 more up near gate A2 and 5 more up near 71.

T4 has that one chicken wing place around 24, chinese place nr 20, 2x Pete's Coffee where it takes them 10 min to make a grilled sandwich, and one bar/food place up near 34. And a cupcake Tin nr 34 where you can get good coffee without a line. Oh, and approx 2/3 mile away is a McDonalds.


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