I don't believe our earnings should be tied to company profitability. They shouldn't be - but they are.

We don't have to like it, but we ought to understand it.

The Delta Pilot Medical Plan is showing a large loss...:eek:

The majority falls for it everytime. This time is no different. 3/3/3/3.

TEN

we have nothing to worry about.
It's contractual, so the company can't dump it unless Dalpa gives it away..
oh, ****
Barrycare, here we come.

Curious where did you find that info? Thx.

Where we are today financially is dependent upon what metric you want to measure by because you can argue we do cost more and argue we don't.

If you were to look at the average pay per pilot: A 12% increase.

How about total cost? A 94% increase. BUT of course in 2005 it was DAL only and 2013 it's DAL+NWA. But if you wanted to say we cost twice as much now as in 2005, it's kind of true if you only look at two numbers in a vacuum.

But that wouldn't be the whole story either would it? 2005 was 9 years ago. How about we compare buying power, a metric similar to inflation but more pertinent to the individual: A -13% change from 2005 to 2013.

FWIW, average one way fare:17% increase.

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Okay so how about our CASM? Well adjusted or inflation our CASM has increased by 6%. We do cost more.

But note that the company charges 17% more for a ticket now than they did in 2005, adjusted for inflation. In fact, adjusted for inflation our RASM is up 33% since 2005. The pilots percentage of that revenue is down by -20% over that time.

I think to get the pilots back to the same percentage of revenue as they were in 2005 you would need a $35,000 a year salary increase. 20% or $208,000/yr on average.

Now this is just FTB back of the napkin math/pillow talk, but I see that revenue and ticket prices have increased as has our costs but the increase in revenue has outstripped our increase in cost to the company.

Thus there is a greater margin between the revenue created at the airline thanks to us flying the airplanes and our cost to the airline to fly those airplanes. Both went up and the difference between the two went up as well and left us behind.

Don't you worry one bit, I'm sure the company will cover the loss.:D

Don't use them (although I totally would) but I do use www.harrys.com

Similar business model and prices. Quality is very good and the razors last much longer than the Fusions I was using before. Their shave cream looks expensive ($8 a tube I think) but its pretty good and you don't need much so it lasts a while. But the blades work well with the regular stuff too. I'm done with the $40 packs behind the locked glass nonsense.

The company sends the old guys snail mail, the plan assets were as of June 2013 -$1,039,696. June 2012-$5,750,379. Using the 'how goes it wheel'... They should already be in the red. There are a lot more savvy folk on the thread. Please tell me I'm full of ....Ensure.

The most visionary thing about Jobs IMO was his relentless pursuit of the product especially the interface. MS was always arrogant and pushed things to market that weren't ready because they knew you'd buy it anyway and that neanderthal linebacker Ballmer took that dropped ball and ran it back into his own endzone giving Apple a safety, 2 points and the ball back. They are finally starting to focus on build quality and along with the iClones in the phone sector are finally copying OS enough to compete and in some cases bypass Apple's built in slower update/release schedule.

You gotta give Apple credit though; not only do they make great stuff, they make their competition make way better stuff than they otherwise would.

Those MS stores at the malls are absolutely hillarious though. Total Apple Store knock offs including the blue shirts, casual jeans look and white I.D. holders, but sans nearly as many customers. :rolleyes: At least they're trying. I guess.