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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
(Post 1669719)
Are we really now the only employee group not back to pre bankruptcy pay levels??
That memo from management has to be pretty embarrassing for DALPA. I'm somewhat surprised that management rubbed DALPA's nose in it so blatantly. There's the pay thing and then there's also the part about our new ADG being no big deal because it's offset by other productivity concessions we've made. Makes DALPA look awfully ineffective. But I guess that was the intent. Hence my comment. At DAL, it pays better to threaten to join a union than to actually have one. |
Originally Posted by Express pilot
(Post 1669287)
Are there any RJs we can list S2 on?
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
(Post 1669737)
The FA jumpseat is also available on some RJ's.
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1669754)
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Originally Posted by iceman49
(Post 1669676)
If I remember, this flight was testing the ability of the autopilot to handle an engine out shortly after takeoff. During the previous tests the fcu altitude was set at a much higher alt above the grnd, on the last test the fcu altitude was set much lower to the ground. When alt * came on it was doing the computation as to how long it took to get to the fcu alt, since it was much lower than the previous demos the autopilot caused the aircraft to pitch up to meet the calculations. The aircraft was rolling off on one side and the pilots pulled the other engine to idle to straighten out the aircraft. Initially it was thought that it was only a 330/340 problem, but via the sim we found out the 320 had the same issue, I think there was a software change....its been a long time. One of NWA execs was supposed to be on board and bowed out at the last moment, I think there were a lots of execs from Allitalia on board.
Even after the software updates, you can still get in trouble if you're at the edge of the envelope as many protections go away when you get into ALT*. |
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1669754)
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
(Post 1669334)
Interesting to note that gate agents and flight attendants are making more than they were prior to bankruptcy. Sure would be nice if pilots could say the same.
Or is DAL saying that other employees are back to where they were prior to 9/11? |
Originally Posted by RockyBoy
(Post 1669719)
I'm with T on this one. Pay RA whatever. As long as he is paying down debt and running the company like he has since he arrived, I don't care what he gets paid. Paying down debt has been the best long term move any CEO at Delta has done in decades. Having our debt below 5 Billion is huge for those of us who have a lot of years left here.
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Originally Posted by Alan Shore
(Post 1669770)
I'm curious as to exactly what DAL means by pre-bankruptcy levels. As I recall, all employees took cuts pre-bankruptcy and then even more during bankruptcy. For us, getting back to pre-bankruptcy levels could be interpreted as getting back to LOA 46, which is not saying much at all.
Or is DAL saying that other employees are back to where they were prior to 9/11? The real reality is we are a business that fails or prospers based on its cost structure relative to our competitors. That's the standard management, wall street and the NMB care about. |
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