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Just to clarify, you do not necessarily go on long call at 0000. That is only the case if you haven't gotten anything by 3pm. Regardless of if you checked or not, you can still have a legal 1000 trip or short call, as long as they did put it on your sched by 1500 the day before.

The assumption is if you don't check it from 1500-2359, fine, but you need to check it by 0000. Of course we no longer have to notify of anything, which was a massive concession IMO. Its unprecedented that we are considered notified now upon first voicemail attempted contact. That was an earth shattering giveaway that will remain forever, long after the higher duty period average goes away during the next crisis or whatever.

I think the company will usually try and notify you, but the logic behind the concessions we gave was that since you can go NORAD for any 10 consecutive hours you want if you haven't got an assignment by then, we shifted the burden of notification to us.

In any case, it benefits you to check and screenshot your sched as close to 3pm (but not before) as you can.

So.

Seriously, so.

What if they ordered an EK style air show hero 2000 super jumbos. What would that matter?

I don't see us falling for it. Not even remotely close.

They will have to find another sucker. There are two major players out there with horrible scope…AS and JB…and/or they could flail around vaporizing investor money in an IndyAir style experiment.

Either way I don't see the scrubs Bedford, Hulas and even Atkin coming even remotely close to cracking the legacy scope lines with their fantasy 100-160 seat "RJ's". That ship has sailed and sunk.

Sounds like a bad investment to me.

If we're out of balance already, and we're pulling down more over the Atlantic (even if its just a reduction in growth, its still a capacity transfer away from there) and AF/KLM is adding a 380 per day to MIA (a lot of block hours) I think the writing is on the wall. They have no intention to "keep their deals" other than assuming we will just excuse the deal in the first place. Perhaps for money. Maybe that'll be their first move after another bad faith zero percent raise opener. OK, OK, a COLA raise plus a couple percent, but only if…


I agree with you I want the block hour/ESK's and not just for a moment but for years. There needs to be a stick for noncompliance though.

As an aside, if we morph into a AF/KLM/VA hub feeder and continue the pulldown that started from the Great ER Purge of a couple years ago, even if we split the block hour/ESK's evenly, or even if we get 51.5%, but we're only splitting the hub to hub and they get a ton of block hour growth from their hubs to destinations we currently serve, are those block hours/ESK's counted in the formula? Or is that a free way for them to transfer a ton of capacity to our "partners" without using our metal or pilots? Yes, there would be some growth in US-EU hub hours/ESK's to do that, but there would be a lot more hours/ESK's lost than gained if all those hours/ESK's suddenly went off the books because it was considered EU-EU flying.

Or just check on the company provided computers in ops.


What?

Commuting is a choice, not only for commuting by air, but living anywhere more than 10 or 15 minutes away. :cool:

Possibly.

Keeping in mind they could:

*Infect JB

*Infect AS

*Blow shareholder money on a failed IndyAir II experiment

*Sell the orders/options to airlines around the globe

*Cancel the orders/options and likely pay little to no penalty since they likely were fantasy press release orders to begin with, unless one of the above options can somehow materialize

*Sit back and hope legacy airlines figure out how to gut their scope clauses to go for the money shot that's somehow eluded them all these years. Oh right, ASA and Mesaba flew Bach jets once and CMR almost bought Spirit and/or TWA, so there's that. :rolleyes:



Of all their options, Mesabah's worst case scenario is by far the least likely.

I never ACK the trip, and they never called me.

I'm surprised no one has commented on the ALPA contact comparison yet. Glad they added in FedEx and UPS in the comparison. Still no foreign airlines though.

Yes, but as soon as they take delivery of such aircraft, they can no longer operate as a DCI carrier, with the exception of Republic.

The remedy for scope non compliance is the written financial penalties in the contract(which there are none), or in certain circumstances, a merger with SLI.