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GogglesPisano 05-17-2014 08:27 AM

"SCHEDULE WITH SAFETY"*




* except for stand-ups. Because 10 hours of rest should be an absolute minimum, unless it shouldn't be, because some guys want to be "productive."

GunshipGuy 05-17-2014 08:42 AM

CDOs? How about this: Turn it down and let the company see what it's like to feel the pilots' exercising their rights under the PWA.

Check Essential 05-17-2014 09:00 AM

Word is the CDOs are going to be for premium pay.

There's also some new language offering even more pay if the pilot is willing to be flexible regarding the hotel. Big bonus if you're open to doing your lean-over

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-p...-the-river.jpg

Denny Crane 05-17-2014 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1645165)
Word is the CDOs are going to be for premium pay.

There's also some new language offering even more pay if the pilot is willing to be flexible regarding the hotel. Big bonus if you're open to doing your lean-over

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-p...-the-river.jpg

Okay, sounds like we've established what we are..........................now we're just talkin' price!:)

Denny

thinkstraight 05-17-2014 09:04 AM

What you guys are missing here regarding CDO's ETC.. is that we are rapidly approaching the type of work rules that the regionals have. We cannot allow this to happen. It's time to wake up and say NO!!

Purple Drank 05-17-2014 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1645085)
I will fight tooth and nail to avoid having to fly them myself

And there you have it.

Thanks for your leadership.

DAL 88 Driver 05-17-2014 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1645165)
Word is the CDOs are going to be for premium pay.

There's also some new language offering even more pay if the pilot is willing to be flexible regarding the hotel. Big bonus if you're open to doing your lean-over

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-p...-the-river.jpg

So that's the going rate for compromising safety these days? (Premium pay and something extra if you don't want a hotel room.)

I guess I didn't realize that safety was negotiable. :mad:

DAL 88 Driver 05-17-2014 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1645085)
I will fight tooth and nail to avoid having to fly them myself, and I will provide appropriate input to my reps. That's about all I can do from my pool deck. :cool:

I won't just avoid them, I flat out won't DO them. I cannot (and will not) sign the release, signifying that I'm adequately rested, for a CDO.

Email already sent to my reps. (For all the good that's going to do. :rolleyes:)

80ktsClamp 05-17-2014 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1645083)
I don't see a 5:15 ADG as being much of a gain. Besides the very few trips were the 4:30 ADG kicks in, don't all trips already pay 5:15 per day?

What am I missing?

Scoop

Around 30% of domestic trips pay less than 5:15 a day. No more 13:30 3-day trips and no more 18 and change 4-day trips come with that. And for the first time in generations or perhaps ever you have reserves paid the same as lineholders for trips.

DAL 88 Driver 05-17-2014 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1645175)
Around 30% of domestic trips pay less than 5:15 a day. No more 13:30 3-day trips and no more 18 and change 4-day trips come with that. And for the first time in generations or perhaps ever you have reserves paid the same as lineholders for trips.

That would be an improvement I could support.


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