Is this "policy" posted any where other than in a JFK CPO letter? Is it on the DeltaNet anywhere?? If possible, I'd like a copy of it so I can take this up with my CPO office. This new "policy" is going to s...w a lot of commuters who cannot airport list more than 5 hours (I think that is the current limit) prior to the flight.

Denny

Rarely seen anyone want to get off unless we were absurdly late, security wise it would bother me if someone wanted to get off last minute.

I think if you were under an hour you were locked out...it said see gate agent, however you just went to the gate....got entered into the system at your appropriate seniority.

The following is directly out of Section 24 of the contract:

L. Free and Reduced Rate Transportation

1. Free and reduced rate transportation privileges granted by Company policy to noncontract personnel now or in the future, will be extended to pilots.
2. There will be no substantial reduction in on-line transportation privileges as a whole, for pilots during the term of this PWA.
Note: The Company may charge a yearly pass usage fee that will be the same charge as for other employees, but will not exceed $50 per year per primary pass rider.

Couldn't this new "policy" be considered a violation of point number 2?

Denny

The current "lockout" time is 30 minutes. I'm not sure about NYC, but that's been my experience everywhere else.

Is this policy currently in place or is this just something they're thinking about? I'm asking because I'll have to leave for the airport earlier today if it has become policy.

They may shoot for 20 minutes early, the only time I've ever seen that is when everyone is on board. Typically the door gets shut 3-5 minutes early on international...if they want to shut the door extremely early, they have to have the Captains permission, I will only do it if we are fairly positive that we will be pushing imediately (on the clock).

There are on rare occasions when you need the agent back, but typically its something that will not be a quick fix, eg you were not getting out on time anyway.

Another part of the puzzle is that NW has software that can track bags, which will show if its better to wait for the bags (in the case of a late arrival or runner) but if there is a connecting flight to get the bags on.

Delta King Of The World
 

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Delta: King of the World?

By Ted Reed 10/01/09 - 10:39 AM EDT
Stock quotes in this article: DAL , AMR , LCC , CAL , UAUA , ALK
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ATLANTA (TheStreet) -- Delta(DAL Quote) wants to leave no doubt that it is the world's dominant airline.
It will let nobody stand in its way, particularly American(AMR Quote), the second largest airline, with which Delta has picked a fight. The prize? A significant presence at Tokyo's Narita Airport, the most important airport in the world" fastest growing aviation market. American has it, a result of its partnership with Japan Air Lines, Narita's largest carrier. Delta wants it, and is negotiating to replace American as JAL's partner.
"What Delta does here is bid up the thing so American spends a lot of money, because American is desperate to keep JAL," says aviation consultant Mike Boyd. "That's a good strategy (for Delta). This is sound, wonderfully nasty competition. It shows you why we should be proud of the U.S. airline industry.
"The whole global airline industry is in the tank, except in the U.S., where we have visionary leadership that goes for each other's throats," Boyd said. "This may be the one U.S. industry that can take over the world."
Of the three largest carriers, American is the only one without a Narita hub. The relationship with JAL enables American passengers at Narita to fly beyond Tokyo on JAL. But JAL is deeply troubled financially and is currently seeking to restructure. In early June, American began talking with its management about expanded cooperation and a potential investment.


With the worst for the airline sector said to be over, which airline carrier will perform best in the final quarter of 2009?

JetBlue Airways

Continental Airlines

Southwest Airlines

Delta Airlines

United Airlines

Not long afterward, Delta also entered into talks with JAL. For Delta, the effort is a win-win, says aviation consultant George Hamlin. "Either Delta gets an outstanding position on the North Pacific, or it potentially causes its rival American to pay more to keep JAL as a partner, which would keep American from doing something else with its money," he says.
Already the world's largest airline as the result of 2008 merger with Northwest -- a principal purpose of the merger was to secure Northwest's Tokyo hub -- Delta is not resting on its laurels.
The world's largest travel market is New York, and Delta is already the biggest international carrier at Kennedy. In August, Delta said it had cut a deal with US Airways(LCC Quote) to acquire slots at La Guardia, making it the biggest airline there as well. Slots are assigned take off and landing times at congested airports. Delta traded slots at Washington's Reagan National Airport for the La Guardia slots.
Overall, Delta is the second-largest carrier in the New York market, behind Continental(CAL Quote), which had about 37% more capacity in the market in 2008. Continental operates a hub at Newark.
In Europe, Delta has an enviable position, the result of its role in the Skyteam alliance. The world's airlines are split up into three alliances, or groups of airlines that write tickets on one another's flights and make other arrangements to ease connections. For U.S. carriers, the alliance relationships determine which European hubs they use to connect passengers.
Oneworld alliance member American flies into the British Airways hub at London Heathrow. Star alliance member United(UAUA Quote) flies into the Lufthansa hub at Frankfort. Then there is Delta. It flies into the KLM hub at Amsterdam and the Air France hub in Paris. Delta has two European hubs, while its competitors each have one.
In Asia, a deal with JAL would make Delta dominant at Narita where, as a result of its acquisition of Northwest's hub, it now serves 24 markets, including 10 trans-Pacific markets. It is already the leading U.S. carrier across the Pacific.
In November 2008, shortly after the Northwest merger, Delta moved to enhance its trans-Pacific presence through a deal with Seattle-based Alaska Air(ALK Quote) that improved the pair's capability to offer connections in Seattle, the best positioned U.S. city to originate flights across the North Pacific.
Boyd said Delta has transformed itself, first in a 2005 bankruptcy and then through the Northwest merger, a deal that put a former Northwest CEO and several key Northwest executives in command of Delta. In fact, he said, in the merger, Northwest took over Delta.
"The people at the top come from Northwest but genetically they come from pit bulls," Boyd said. "This is not the gentle, wonderful, magnolia-sipping Delta of the past. This is a whole new airline."
-- Written by Ted Reed in Charlotte, N.C.

Just an FYI, the preceding article as formatted came across with a poll that looks like a statement on APC. Specifically, the "which airline will perform best in the final quarter of 2009".

The question is, will the new Delta be as territorial as the old NWA was? Already we have seen DAL pull back in some markets that NWA fought hard to get over the years.

I see this getting changed. I guess there is a way they can do this, but I see this as a direct retort to Flt Ops exerting pressure on the fact that too many "Non-Revenue Customers" are being left at the gate. This is a hot topic item right now, and I am sure this blew a few people's lids off!

I know I am sending an e-mail complain once it is official.