Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
04-08-2014, 03:33 PM
veut gagner à la loterie
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if Newk says vote no, I am voting no.
04-08-2014, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
if Newk says vote no, I am voting no.
No one listened to me back then.
Wait. No one listens to me now.
04-08-2014, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Shore
I quite agree. We should provide an ability for those who wish to fly (and earn) more and provide more paid time off (e.g., vacation) so that those who do wish to fly more are not compelled to do so.
Are we sniping again?
Are we sniping again?
04-08-2014, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by index
True story. I don't know any details of how it went down but the pilot who early retired was a great guy.
04-08-2014, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Gearjerk
Hoping it wasn't TIMBO or FINIS?!?!
You'll know when I go, because I'm going to sell my seat on EBAY!
Bidding starts at my lost DB money; $1.5 Million.
04-08-2014, 04:49 PM
seeing the large hubs...
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Not me, not yet anyway...
You'll know when I go, because I'm going to sell my seat on EBAY!
Bidding starts at my lost DB money; $1.5 Million.
You'll know when I go, because I'm going to sell my seat on EBAY!
Bidding starts at my lost DB money; $1.5 Million.
04-08-2014, 04:55 PM
On Reserve
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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
A mil friend of mine who went through this in 2010 said it resulted in holding him up for at least two or three classes. Upon review he was one of the lucky ones who got the go ahead; the others (~50%?) did not fair as well. One of the unlucky ones had a recommendation letter from his dad (a current captain with the company). Don't test defensively (i.e. IMO, applicants should be honest on those MMPI tests and not try to look like a saint. Probably a lot more to it than that, though).
Don't test defensively (i.e. IMO, applicants should be honest on those MMPI tests and not try to look like a saint. Probably a lot more to it than that, though).
04-08-2014, 04:56 PM
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Who's the smart guy with the spreadsheet that tells me what I get paid for a reserve month with one week of vacation and an ALV of 81:30?
04-08-2014, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
if all 11,999 pilots remaining kick in $125 each, we can all move up a number huh?
Send your checks to:
Timbo's Topless Sailing School
Two Palms and a Hammock Road
Tahiti
04-08-2014, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
I think this is probably a. "Which came first: the chicken or egg?" conversation, but I'll answer anyway. From my perspective at the time, which was a freshly bumped DC-9 captain back in the right seat of the 757; our lower pay rates had everything to do with our frozen pension. If I remember correctly, our frozen pension vote came in the fall, while the concessionary contract vote came the next year.
I can tell you that I argued until I was blue in the face with guys with multiple reasons as to why they shouldn't vote for that contract. Almost everyone fell back on the same excuse as to why they would vote for it: they wanted to protect their pensions. IMO, it's the main reason why "we" voted in those lower rates.
So, it's all in how you look at it. I didn't take his statement to imply that we kept the pension because we had lower rates, while it appears that you did. Rather, I thought he was just including the frozen pension as evidence to compare our overall compensation as compared to yours.
I guess we would have to ask him what he meant.
I can tell you that I argued until I was blue in the face with guys with multiple reasons as to why they shouldn't vote for that contract. Almost everyone fell back on the same excuse as to why they would vote for it: they wanted to protect their pensions. IMO, it's the main reason why "we" voted in those lower rates.
So, it's all in how you look at it. I didn't take his statement to imply that we kept the pension because we had lower rates, while it appears that you did. Rather, I thought he was just including the frozen pension as evidence to compare our overall compensation as compared to yours.
I guess we would have to ask him what he meant.
Interesting times....it was a fast moving train and my mind has forgotten details as my life is now better. I guess my point is, it's like a big battle. Afterwards two guys will sit and argue who got shelled worse and who had to fight off more Huns. But, we're here, we're alive, and doing fine.
I wish you guys would quit trying to walk me down memory lane....it wasn't that much fun the first time
Your Uncle Ferd
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