He's probably also jealous of your W2 and work rules (such as they are before SD changes them via fiat). :cool:

what was the reason again? DTW 717 wasnt ramped up enough? but why not allow it out of ATL? we ex 88 guys would like to see what is west of El Paso ..

There's nothing west of El Paso except sea monsters. Lest you forget:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/DR...vFig=w698-h442

oh I did forget.

I guess he Compass guy, youre curiosity is going to get you eaten alive by a Sea Monster.

Hate to say this (I really do) but it makes sense. You've got a new jet with a new wing and cycle limited fuselage flying against a design from the 1950's with a fuselage that don't care about cycles (100,000+)

The 717 is the right size, but what have been your observations on fuel burn (assuming you have DC-9 experience) ?

The E175 is 4 generations newer than the 717's type. The long thin routes are going to go there first.

For the record, I voted no and I fought to "capture" rather than exclude the E175's type (aka the Compass divestiture).

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/aer...s/717_fig4.jpg

I like the jet, but it is built for more cycles than a washing machine at a house with 8 kids.

That map holds true for the ATL airbus as well, except it cuts off at Houston.

Call your reps and tell them you want them to take advantage of any opportunities to recapture that flying afforded by the pilot shortage. Yeah, they're smaller and lower paying than our present narrow bodies, but come with a really nice mix of flying with cool layovers, a really nice plane, and likely accelerated seniority (USAir has 2 yr CAs flying them!). We used to do that flying, lost it in BK, and have a rare shot at recapturing it in the next few years. Let's make sure we're ready to take advantage!

Compass is still hiring if you really want that AUS-LAX routes...and LAX-SEA, LAX-SAN, LAX-SFO, LAX-PDX...etc... :p

You know what after finding the CRM Update for May, I see I remembered it wrong. The letter was not about insufficient DTW staffing for the 717 and that's why the AUS-LAX turns were dropped. It just said because network planning decided it wouldn't do it.

We should really try to buy a life limited low cycle jet and put it at mainline. :D

FWIW, DAL mainline has both YVR and YYC layovers.

What do you think of the JAN layover?

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