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Old 05-20-2014, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by gzsg View Post
Scrappy is telling the MEC this LOA will add a significant number of jobs.

Since the first of the year we have been averaging over 5000 green slips a month.

If this LOA is unchanged and passes MEMRAT the number of Green slips will increase significantly, well above 5000 a month due to all of the additional pilots required by the gains Scrappy says we are making.
If this TA adds a significant number of jobs, then why would the company agree to it? But wait, it will add jobs and require more Green Slips. Again, why would the "never pay full price" Delta management team do this?

Something doesn't add up here.
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Old 05-20-2014, 05:43 PM
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turtle heading

(verb – present participle) The act of experiencing the summit of a crusty turd protruding from your sphincter (a turtle head); to really need a crap. Also known as touching cloth.

Onlooker: "Why are you walking so strangely?"
Protagonist: "I'm turtle-heading, if I don't find a toilet soon I'm going to purge all over my pants."

Magic Carpet Ride

To line the bowl of an airplane lavatory with TP so as to reduce the chance of leaving difficult to remove and incriminating fecal skid marks that are produced in a vacuum extraction flushing method.

"It might be smart to employ the magic carpet ride so that if the hot Milf in 2B is waiting to use this porta potty in the sky, I don't look like a tool."
Manager, that was one of the funniest posts I've ever read on here!
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Old 05-20-2014, 05:47 PM
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Wow. Stop the presses! I'm agreeing with PD, too!
Didn't you agree with me the other day too?



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Old 05-20-2014, 05:49 PM
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Hey, whomever recommended The Pig and Pint on VA Ave - good call, thanks for the tip!
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Old 05-20-2014, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Free Bird View Post
If this TA adds a significant number of jobs, then why would the company agree to it? But wait, it will add jobs and require more Green Slips. Again, why would the "never pay full price" Delta management team do this?

Something doesn't add up here.
Exactly. Am I supposed to believe that in this environment (demand for pilots) that they are going to just hand us increased staffing?

Or is it more staffing compared to normal ops, but less than the increase that would be triggered by all the GS flying?

NO to CDO
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Old 05-20-2014, 06:15 PM
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Okay, I gotta admit I'm a little surprised because some of the usual suspects are agreeing with a con position.

Is there a political reason? Was there a collective forget to logoff? Or does the TA for which there is no language appear to suck that bad?

I apologize to all the usual suspects for assuming you would be just using regurgitated talking points. Thank you for speaking your minds.
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Old 05-20-2014, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1 View Post
Okay, I gotta admit I'm a little surprised because some of the usual suspects are agreeing with a con position.

Is there a political reason? Was there a collective forget to logoff? Or does the TA for which there is no language appear to suck that bad?

I apologize to all the usual suspects for assuming you would be just using regurgitated talking points. Thank you for speaking your minds.
Scambo,

The CDO thing might be a distractor for other agendas. Maybe there is no intent to implement CDOs. Just a tool to get our eyes off the real issue. CDOs are so ridiculous to implement or suggest in a perceived pro-safety/fatigue environment, that I am beginning to think that the issue is created to help move pass along another issue

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Old 05-20-2014, 06:25 PM
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Ooooh. That makes me have to pee!
youre pointless and tiresome welcome to ignore.
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Old 05-20-2014, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Free Bird View Post
If this TA adds a significant number of jobs, then why would the company agree to it? But wait, it will add jobs and require more Green Slips. Again, why would the "never pay full price" Delta management team do this?

Something doesn't add up here.


Maybe, but maybe not. I can only speculate that the company realized that they would need to make staffing adjustments in order to comply with 117.

5000 green-slips a month and we have not seen a summer yet under 117.

Maybe when the company told Wall Street that FAR 117 compliance would not require more Pilots they were wrong.

Scoop

OBTW - I am beginning to have serious doubts about this TA but to all those who say "Whats the rush?" I respond with the fact that we have known about 117 for two years, and have been operating under it for 5 1/2 months - this may be ill conceived (still undecided) but was not rushed.

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Old 05-20-2014, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by iceman49 View Post
Sailing, I think we were going to get the bunks for the 330s anyway due to the loss in revenue. Good analysis.
I disagree. After the company pushed us into an arbitration and spent all that money to ultimately came out as a win from the arbitrator for them? They won that arbitration and got exactly what they wanted. If it was better financially for them to not have a pilot in a BE seat, then they would be putting the ER pilots below deck toot sweet so they could sell that seat. That isn't happening, nor do I expect them to ever do it unless forced to do so. This is a situation where they won and then we took some leverage and turned the tables on them to get it back. While I completely understand that the MCRC is not what was on the 330 before, it is better than a BE seat and an improvement.
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