Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
05-20-2014, 07:09 PM
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If the new procedures are a 13 hr notification and acknowledgement is no longer necessary, then the CNO needs to be redone as well! I don't want ANY robo calls, I only want text messages! Right now a phone number for a voice call has to be on there for On Duty and On Duty @ Rest. That needs to be eliminated.
05-20-2014, 07:36 PM
Sho me da money!
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Guys I went to state college, which is like going to high school twice, so go easy! Have not read the whole TA but tell me there is something in there that will get rid of the worst butt sucking 3 day 10hour trips like we have in LAX......
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05-20-2014, 07:46 PM
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Scambo,
The CDO thing might be a distractor for other agendas. Maybe there is no intent to implement CDOs. Just a tool to get our eyes off the real issue. CDOs are so ridiculous to implement or suggest in a perceived pro-safety/fatigue environment, that I am beginning to think that the issue is created to help move pass along another issue
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The CDO thing might be a distractor for other agendas. Maybe there is no intent to implement CDOs. Just a tool to get our eyes off the real issue. CDOs are so ridiculous to implement or suggest in a perceived pro-safety/fatigue environment, that I am beginning to think that the issue is created to help move pass along another issue
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The company asked for CDO's
Think about that for a minute. WHY?
Because they stand to make more a$$ load$ of ca$h.
Take a 1.5 hour circle and draw it around Charlotte, you know, the USAirways/American hub. Take all the viables, RDU, GSO, SAV, GSP, you get the picture.
Delta's marketing will create a CDO from those cities to ATL. Perhaps they even add a late night bank with more utilization of the NBs they are short of.
As they siphon off their competitors traffic that had better options going through CLT, but now have equal or better options through hooterville, they make cash!
What did we just get for that giant concession.
05-20-2014, 08:09 PM
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There's a jury duty form online. You need to let the company know ASAP. They will drop as little of your trip as possible so you can make jury duty (could be whole trip). You will be paid for the dropped part of your trip. If you do not let the company know in a timely manner, it will be dropped without pay (yes this has happened). Jury duty is referenced in section 12 of the PWA.
If you fail to notify them immediately upon receipt of the summons, they are still obligated to ensure you are free from work to perform your legal duties, however they are no longer contractually required to pay protect you. Bottom line, let them know ASAP because a brothas gotta get paid.
05-20-2014, 08:12 PM
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05-20-2014, 08:50 PM
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With pay/no credit above other rigs, well we didn't have an ADG 2 years ago, now we are about to have a 5:15 (and we went from two carve outs to one)... Section 6 is less than a year out and that is a perfect time to up the SDP to pay and credit (and maybe even to 7:45 or 8:00!)
Incremental gains add up over time.
(I've always been a QOL over money guy too...but I'd like both when possible!)
05-20-2014, 08:54 PM
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The funny thing is, that's almost exactly what I would do when I used to do them. I'd work out, tell people they were wrong on the internet, and then get about a 2 hour nap during the layover. When I got back home I'd sleep for 6 hours. I found that was the least fatiguing method for me.
I did do a fair amount of hand building the lines of time at my previous airline for the categories in my base back then while at the hotels though, which was productive. In a galaxy far, far away I did over 70 (not by choice) split duty rotations (high speeds was what we called them then) without any other type of intervening trip over a 5 month period at my previous airline. It took planning for me to be responsible for my rest and ensure I was sleeping as much as possible during the day. There were always things I would rather be doing, but it was ultimately my responsibility to ensure I was rested before I showed up for a high speed. This included commuting in early to ensure I could sleep before reporting for the first one in a typical string of 4 in a row.
While I did many of them and did not suffer from excessive fatigue (because I planned accordingly) nor did I have any health complications as others have intimated, I am not currently in favor of allowing them in our PWA.
05-20-2014, 08:57 PM
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I am arguing that 3 pilots is cheaper than 4. I am thinking of the Caribbean turns where a crew deadheads down and flies back. Now that trip will be done with 1 captain and 2 first officers instead of 2 captains and 2 first officers. I could handle it if it was done with 2 captains and 1 first officer. I am disturbed about losing that captain position.
05-20-2014, 09:09 PM
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05-20-2014, 09:12 PM
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I am arguing that 3 pilots is cheaper than 4. I am thinking of the Caribbean turns where a crew deadheads down and flies back. Now that trip will be done with 1 captain and 2 first officers instead of 2 captains and 2 first officers. I could handle it if it was done with 2 captains and 1 first officer. I am disturbed about losing that captain position.
Have you asked your rep if the dinner/movie flights will be affected and why/why not?
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