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Old 05-21-2014 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano

Nothing wrong with that.....
Old 05-21-2014 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
It's a one for one route trade resulting in more block hours for Delta pilots(LAX-LHR is longer than ATL-LHR). So, what's not good?
Who knows man?
I used to love reading this thread but now it seems EVERY, and I do mean every change to anything we do as a company is met by a chorus of middle school girls screaming, "oh maaa gaaawd! they di'dunt!"

I can hear the black helicopters hovering this thread constantly these days.

Seems like a given, the LA thing, now that we have a JV and own wait what is it again? Ah yes, 49% of the company.

You older guys and '07-10 hire guys with paranoia/chip on shoulder/nostalgia problems need to live in the now. (full disclosure: I'm an 07 hire)

Not everything our company does is an Orwellian plot to get less pilots on property, steal from us, kick your dog or steal your wife. Take things as they are and not as you think they would have been with Leo at the helm or others.

You will live longer, and by God probably spend less time on message boards.

New and different flying is a good thing for us. Especially when the block hour change is nearly double for Delta guys. Period. End of story, no black helicopters coming to take your seats on the 330 or ER in ATL.
Old 05-21-2014 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
Not good. Not good at all.
How so? I think you're incorrect on this one.

Here's my math:

LAX-LHR = 10:35
LHR-LAX = 11:20

total of 21:55 block x 3 pilots

ATL-LHR = 8:35
LHR-ATL = 9:30

total of 18:05 x 3 pilots

Delta pilots will gain 3:05 x 3 x 31 = 286:45 of flying time each month. That's equivalent to 3.58 MORE pilots needed.

That is a GOOD thing for Delta pilots.

"Not good. Not good at all".... for Virgin pilots!
Old 05-21-2014 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
Anyone at the meeting wanna update us?

I'm with flyallnite, where's the language?
(My guess is after the up, if up...but before the memory rat discussion.)
Going just as expected so far. Going through the TA line by line with q&a from the reps. One detail that was not previously disclosed -- the 1000 report on the first reserve day has to be assigned by 1500 on your last X day.

Discussing split duty now.
Old 05-21-2014 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Spudhauler
Sailing, this doesn't make any sense. The company wouldn't want it if it didn't benefit them. I'm tired of the old "we don't see any issues" mantra from ALPA, like sick leave verification, followed by unintended consequences biting us in the butt. We have to stop the cycle of voting yes on something without really knowing what it means only to find out later that it sucks.
I agree with you. There is something in the wind on Va Ave that will not be beneficial to us, and this lays the foundation. Remember, it is still the most cost effective if we die the day after we retire. Like McDonalds and just about any other restaurant in which we eat, they don't care about our long term health. All nighters, CDOs, SPDs all those things are detrimental to your health.

Just say no to CDO.

sorry for the rant
Old 05-21-2014 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Professor
Who knows man?
I used to love reading this thread but now it seems EVERY, and I do mean every change to anything we do as a company is met by a chorus of middle school girls screaming, "oh maaa gaaawd! they di'dunt!"

I can hear the black helicopters hovering this thread constantly these days.

Seems like a given, the LA thing, now that we have a JV and own wait what is it again? Ah yes, 49% of the company.

You older guys and '07-10 hire guys with paranoia/chip on shoulder/nostalgia problems need to live in the now. (full disclosure: I'm an 07 hire)

Not everything our company does is an Orwellian plot to get less pilots on property, steal from us, kick your dog or steal your wife. Take things as they are and not as you think they would have been with Leo at the helm or others.

You will live longer, and by God probably spend less time on message boards.

New and different flying is a good thing for us. Especially when the block hour change is nearly double for Delta guys. Period. End of story, no black helicopters coming to take your seats on the 330 or ER in ATL.
I'm going to guess you quoted the wrong guy. Either that, or you misread my post. I think the route swap is good for delta pilots, and was asking the other guy what he thought was bad about it. Other than spending too much time on this board, your description of me is completely wrong.
Old 05-21-2014 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
my entire month of april was 13.30 3 days.
You won't have those trips when it pays 15:45.
Old 05-21-2014 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Going just as expected so far. Going through the TA line by line with q&a from the reps. One detail that was not previously disclosed -- the 1000 report on the first reserve day has to be assigned by 1500 on your last X day.

Discussing split duty now.
Thanks for the update.
Old 05-21-2014 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Professor
Who knows man?
I used to love reading this thread but now it seems EVERY, and I do mean every change to anything we do as a company is met by a chorus of middle school girls screaming, "oh maaa gaaawd! they di'dunt!"

I can hear the black helicopters hovering this thread constantly these days.

Seems like a given, the LA thing, now that we have a JV and own wait what is it again? Ah yes, 49% of the company.

You older guys and '07-10 hire guys with paranoia/chip on shoulder/nostalgia problems need to live in the now. (full disclosure: I'm an 07 hire)

Not everything our company does is an Orwellian plot to get less pilots on property, steal from us, kick your dog or steal your wife. Take things as they are and not as you think they would have been with Leo at the helm or others.

You will live longer, and by God probably spend less time on message boards.

New and different flying is a good thing for us. Especially when the block hour change is nearly double for Delta guys. Period. End of story, no black helicopters coming to take your seats on the 330 or ER in ATL.

Awesome post sir.

Disclaimer: I am in the crashpad... nothing on TV... and like Zack Mayonaisssse, "I got nowhere else to go"
Old 05-21-2014 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
I'm going to guess you quoted the wrong guy. Either that, or you misread my post. I think the route swap is good for delta pilots, and was asking the other guy what he thought was bad about it.
I was referring to the dude you were quoting. No issue with your statement(s) whatsoever.
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