Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
If no reps told you this and you made it up, well...
Carl
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
We had a factual debate.
Then Carl showed up.
Flight Info style food fight commenced.
Then Carl showed up.
Flight Info style food fight commenced.
In fairness, you did take down your post that I and others quoted before you could take it down. Maybe you should wait a couple of hours to calm down between the process of thought and post.
My .02
Carl
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What does that have to do with anything sailingfun? If two reps told you this wrong information, I'd like to know who they were. Because the reps (and you) were clearly wrong. It wasn't in the implementation date schedule of the original MOU.
If no reps told you this and you made it up, well...
Carl
If no reps told you this and you made it up, well...
Carl
Can't abide NAI
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 12,078
Likes: 15
From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
This is just another way of saying there should never be any other entity representing Delta pilots except ALPA. Never. Because any future new representing agency would be "drawing themselves outside the circle of unity in ALPA." That's fine that you hold that opinion, but it needs to be clear.
Carl
Carl
DPA supporters have been begged to get involved in the process. Mostly they have refused this invitation. Rather than to participate, some have followed their leadership into representational irrelevance followed by criticism and outrage that the process they refused has failed to consider their opinion.
Clearly, one can not have it both ways. If you have an idea how we as a pilot group and association can function while actively undermining our representatives I am all ears. My opinion is that shooting your rep in the back weakens his back bone.
How does after the fact criticism (which is mostly untrue) help us? How does waiting and hoping the ship sinks help the passengers?
If you want to mutiny, please just do it already. I support your legal right to a vote. This has now drug on for four plus years. Otherwise if you don't like the direction we are sailing in there is plenty of opportunities on the bridge and in the engine room.
IF that's true, it's a stunning display of incompetence by our side. Stunning. Lack of communication led to the pilots revolting, leading to our side begging management to save them, leading to management feeling they had the hammer to take back what they previously agreed to. Did we really just throw away the differential of 5:15 ADG between June 1 and November?
If true, words absolutely fail me.
Carl
If true, words absolutely fail me.
Carl
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BB,
Two wrongs don't make a right. Your friend is a big boy and knew he would face attacks both legit and frivolous when he ran. I have disagreed with his stance on a number of issues and have hashed it out via text, email, phone calls and FB messenger. He doesn't need, nor IMHO wants you being his protector. On another note, what is your fetish with constantly knocking NWA and it's former employees? You barely had 9 months at Delta prior to the merger announcement.
Two wrongs don't make a right. Your friend is a big boy and knew he would face attacks both legit and frivolous when he ran. I have disagreed with his stance on a number of issues and have hashed it out via text, email, phone calls and FB messenger. He doesn't need, nor IMHO wants you being his protector. On another note, what is your fetish with constantly knocking NWA and it's former employees? You barely had 9 months at Delta prior to the merger announcement.
How can it not be clear?
DPA supporters have been begged to get involved in the process. Mostly they have refused this invitation. Rather than to [PHP][/PHP]participate, some have followed their leadership into representational irrelevance followed by criticism and outrage that the process they refused has failed to consider their opinion.
Clearly, one can not have it both ways. If you have an idea how we as a pilot group and association can function while actively undermining our representatives I am all ears. My opinion is that shooting your rep in the back weakens his back bone.
How does after the fact criticism (which is mostly untrue) help us? How does waiting and hoping the ship sinks help the passengers?
If you want to mutiny, please just do it already. I support your legal right to a vote. This has now drug on for four plus years. Otherwise if you don't like the direction we are sailing in there is plenty of opportunities on the bridge and in the engine room.
DPA supporters have been begged to get involved in the process. Mostly they have refused this invitation. Rather than to [PHP][/PHP]participate, some have followed their leadership into representational irrelevance followed by criticism and outrage that the process they refused has failed to consider their opinion.
Clearly, one can not have it both ways. If you have an idea how we as a pilot group and association can function while actively undermining our representatives I am all ears. My opinion is that shooting your rep in the back weakens his back bone.
How does after the fact criticism (which is mostly untrue) help us? How does waiting and hoping the ship sinks help the passengers?
If you want to mutiny, please just do it already. I support your legal right to a vote. This has now drug on for four plus years. Otherwise if you don't like the direction we are sailing in there is plenty of opportunities on the bridge and in the engine room.
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