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05-30-2014, 06:06 PM
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I was thinking the same.
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05-30-2014, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DALMD88FO
I looked for a DALPA facebook site and nothing came up. What is it called?
05-31-2014, 04:03 AM
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Quick question. My wife's 92 year old grandmother passed last night. I am on day two of a four day. Is it possible to get off the trip and who do I need to call?
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05-31-2014, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Klondike Bear
Quick question. My wife's 92 year old grandmother passed last night. I am on day two of a four day. Is it possible to get off the trip and who do I need to call?
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I. Death in the Immediate Family 34
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1. Upon notifying his Chief Pilot or his designee, a pilot will be released from duty when a 36 death occurs in his immediate family. A pilot’s “immediate family” includes his: 37
a. spouse, 38
b. children, 39
c. parents, 40
d. parents-in-law, 41
e. grandparents, 42
f. grandchildren, 43
g. siblings, 44
h. stepparents, 45
i. brothers-in-law, 46
Section 13 – Leaves of Absence
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j. sisters-in-law, 1
k. sons-in-law, 2
l. daughters-in-law, 3
m. grandparents-in-law, 4
n. stepparents-in-law, and 5
o. any wholly dependent relative residing in the employee’s household. 6
2. Such pilot will be paid and credited as shown on his line for a period of up to four consecutive days beginning with the first duty period or reserve on-call day from which he was released.
05-31-2014, 04:12 AM
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Klondike,
That is in section 13 of the contract "Leaves of Absence", call your chief pilot or the duty pilot if after hours and they will get you off the trip. You will be paid up to 4 days of missed work per the contract. Delta is very good about getting people home during these times.
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That is in section 13 of the contract "Leaves of Absence", call your chief pilot or the duty pilot if after hours and they will get you off the trip. You will be paid up to 4 days of missed work per the contract. Delta is very good about getting people home during these times.
Sorry for your loss
05-31-2014, 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by DALMD88FO
I looked for a DALPA facebook site and nothing came up. What is it called?
05-31-2014, 04:20 AM
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Thanks 88FO. I did not have time to look it up. I appreciate you doing that for me.
05-31-2014, 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Now I think that's an unfair characterization. I kinda feel like darned if you do and darned if you don't. I know I'm going to regret this but it seems to me you guys are critical of senior guys about scope no matter what we say. Consider the discussion about small jet scope in contract 2012. On the one hand, it's now contractual about getting rid of 100's of 50 seat RJ's for some some more 70+ seaters. On the other hand, the 50 seaters were going away anyway. Okay, you convinced me, they were/are going away anyway. Now why would I want to spend negotiating capital to make it contractual? Isn't that what we did in C2012 and many guys were upset about the deal?
I'm confused.
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I'm confused.
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05-31-2014, 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
What made some upset about C2012 RJ scope was the addition of a lot of the largest 90 seater "RJ's" (configured to 76 seats with a management desired first class). The 50's clearly were going away. I would not be in favor of any kind of additional "scope deal" that gave the company more large RJ's for any reason, especially if they want to use the larger hulls to fly more outsourced pax with a critical pilot supply shortage at the outsourced level. I could even see them trying to float some scheme where DCI gets larger [~100 seat?] "RJ's" in exchange for fewer 70's or even 76er's which are really 90's. No thanks. That would be a concession and a future downturn poison pill that would come back to bite us hard later even if the net DCI seats were reduced. The 76 seat and weight limits should be involitile. If anything, those numbers need to be revised downward.
I'm sure they will try even larger RJ's for some kind of carrot to bail them out of their pathetic DCI MBA experiment. I hope we don't fall for it. But I want larger RJ's reduced and the limits reigned in to some degree, if not entirely.
I'm sure they will try even larger RJ's for some kind of carrot to bail them out of their pathetic DCI MBA experiment. I hope we don't fall for it. But I want larger RJ's reduced and the limits reigned in to some degree, if not entirely.
My point is not "what" we negotiated into the contract but that we "did" negotiate and it cost us some leverage in contract 2012. Many on here argued, very legitimately, that the 50 seat RJ's and outsourcing were/are dying a slow death and going to go away anyway so why waste leverage. I have changed my mind (and I think Ts has too) and agree with this side of the argument now. I think I'm in a book by Joseph Heller!
As for your second paragraph, I think that ship has sailed. They can't get the pilots to staff their experiment now and there is no way in H E double hockey sticks that Dalpa will give them relief from our current scope clause.
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05-31-2014, 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Flamer
Well, the percentage of flying we do should temporarily improve in the near term as we go forward as a result of economic and regulatory factors. What makes it permanent is scope. Changes to the scope clause will cost less negotiating capital when it is less desirable to the company. I'm not saying burn all the capital in CY15, but there will be some cheaper opportunities in the future to shore it up. Buy low and sell high. It's easy.
You are absolutely right, what makes scope changes permanent are changes to the scope clause... It's just now the shoe is on the other foot so to speak. In Contract 2012 some were willing to use some negotiating capital to limit RJ scope and others were not. It just seems to me that many of us have changed our viewpoints (on both sides). I'm now of the opinion we should negotiate more restrictive scope, just not use any negotiating capital to do so. (As many on this forum expressed in the C2012 discussions.)
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