I think reserve has gotten mo' better. I think the union and the company are trying to balance making it good enough so that senior people in the category will bid it.

 

Denny,

One way to answer this without a "food fight" was to ask; where was our contract most deficient compared with airlines in our peer group? That's your answer and will continue to be the answer in when pattern bargaining is a factor.

The good news is that others have used our agreement as a model. We should be able to pattern upwards now instead of having to explain why ye' junior Bucking Bar makes more than a US Air bus Capt.

 

Don't assume I am arguing with you Counsellor. Amicus Denny Crane!

(what's with this board, everyone assumes a reply is a rebuttal. wish they could change the software to include this ...



... wonder how may people will click on it ...

 

But seriously, I also think the reserve portion has improved the most. Just the fact that many senior guys now bid reserve and at times the plug in my category gets a line will attest to this. Think about it, a few years ago reserve only paid a 70 hour guarantee. Going further back every reserve Pilot had a SC window twice a day (DAL South).

Another group that may benefit quite a bit are the junior line-holders. Guys who ended up with the crap 3 day 10:30 hour trips that have since improved to 3 day 13:30 hour trips and that will pay 15:45 come November.

I also think this supports Bar's point - That the portions of our contract that were most deficient, Reserve, and Trip Rigs/guarantees (in my opinion) are the portions that improved the most.

The one area that can still use some improvement is vacation.

Scoop

 

Oh! Sorry Bar, my mistake. Guess I was just spring loaded to think everyone's against me!

Denny

 

I'll answer my own question.

I think the past few negotiations have improved the QOL, pay, etc of the bottom third of each category. (Notice I did NOT say the bottom half of the seniority list.)
I think by doing so, they have improved the lot of the other two thirds by giving them more choices, as in bidding reserve if they want. For the past at least the past 5 months, anyone in my category who wanted to hold a regular line could.

So my answer would be everyone! I know, a copout!

Denny

 

1.
irregardless
Used by people who ignorantly mean to say regardless. According to webster, it is a word, but since the prefix "ir" and the suffx "less" both mean "not or with" they cancel each other out, so what you end up with is regard. When you use this to try to say you don't care about something, you end up saying that you do. Of course everyone knows what you mean to say and only a pompous,rude ******* will correct you.


Wife: "Irregardless is not a word, dummy"
Husband: "Kiss my ass *****! I'm still going to the strip club tonight!"
by Dwayne Boyd August 12, 2005

I'm going to change my avatar to "pompous, rude *******."

 

I heard an interesting rumor about our older 757s (5500s), the NBA, and charter service. More involved than just keeping them for the charters, anyone else hear this?

 

They are keeping 10 aircraft for the charters. I don't believe they are the 5500's. They are some of the newer airframes that were planned for upcoming retirements.

 

Any idea what "buffer - skd bl gt 100/672" means?

Sailing- who will own the jets?