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Old 09-24-2014 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Jughead135
Happy to report I got a line for October--less than a month since IOE completion!--and I have a couple of questions:

1) So I'm Reserve in Sep, Regular in Oct; I have a reserve block (non-X days) ending 30 Sep; first rotation in Oct starts 02 Oct. What is 01 Oct treated as in terms of a day off: “hard” or “soft”? In other words, can I be extended on an assigned trip during what I hope is my last reserve block into my day off in Oct? Does my release on 30 Sep (assuming not assigned a trip) follow the "will be released" at 1200, or the "may request to be released" rules?

2) I need some specific days off in November (not Thanksgiving, I know better), so I will be bidding accordingly. Am I better off:
a) Picking up a carry-over trip at the end of Oct and getting some credit during the first few days of Nov as a pre-award; or
b) Leaving Nov blank (no carry-over trips) so that PBS will have as many days as possible to be able to place awards “around” the days off that I need?
Hoping I can hold a line going forward, but happy to have these "problems" for Oct! Thanks for any help.
Previous comments on carry out trips have some validity; however, in your case you are trying to PICK UP a trip. It's probably a good idea, here's why:
1. Trips at start of Nov (any month) are very sparse because the 1st, 2nd, 3rd (and 4th on 320 fleet) are already mostly covered by carry-out trips from the prior month.
2. The absolute best way to be sure to have your required month's line-credit low around your desired days off, is to ALREADY have the max amount of credit on the first few days of the month due to a carry-out trip, when going into the PBS build. Less credit to award randomly = better chance of your days off.
3. You probably wouldn't get a trip awarded by PBS on first few days of month, due to above reasons plus that every one else will be trying to front load Nov. So a carry out trip is your best bet.
4. Carry out trips CAN be changed, and often are... but you are definitely SAFE from this when the next month's bidpack comes out. So, on 3 or 4 Oct when the Nov bidpack comes out, all the carry-out trips from Oct that needed to be "tweaked" to make Nov work WILL HAVE BEEN TWEAKED. You can see this in the open time by suddenly seeing rotations that WERE there for end of Oct being "no op" and replaced by slightly different numbers. I can see it very easily using Icrew Max app.
5. Also, carry out trips CAN be changed... and usually are if they are "good pilot trips", but NOT if they suck balz! If they already jam 4 pounds of flying into a 3 lb sack, well, there's not much Delta can do to it. If they end right now with a 30 hour layover in Gucciville, followed by a DH home, you can be SURE that crap was a placeholder and it will be replaced with 3 turns to Birmingham.
6. Carry out trips should be hardening up about now, grab one at start of Nov. HOWEVER... if you will be RESERVE in Nov, I have no idea how carryout line interacts with a reserve line but suspect it's basically free flying you did for them to no benefit for you, and all bets are off!
Old 09-24-2014 | 10:45 AM
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Anybody going to be at the free happy hour at the training hotel today?
Old 09-24-2014 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by NERD
Anybody going to be at the free happy hour at the training hotel today?
Free happy hour?

I'll commute in for that!
Old 09-24-2014 | 11:26 AM
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Unfortunately, I've got a D period tonight
Old 09-24-2014 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by MDPilot
Unfortunately, I've got a D period tonight
So...get down there for a few free pops, before the sim!

(and maybe a doggie bag for your IP will help get you through in time to make last call!)
Old 09-24-2014 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Delta1067
The NTSB other agencies that investigated that accident vastly disagree with your ASSumption as to what lead to the crash.
Hey, I see what you did there! By capitalizing the first three letters of assumption you created a double meaning. A double entendre I believe the French call it. It creates a debonaire, but world-weary response to your nemesis, the evil T. My wife might call it childish and point out your arrested development, but I appreciate your creativity.

T. I've got a few years on the Airbus and many more on the Boeings, both big and little. I've got to say, I love me some Airbus (as much as my fav the 777). The yoke argument seems logical to a Boeing guy, but not so much if you've been on the Airbus.
Old 09-24-2014 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by DALMD88FO
Just got an email back from our retirement lady at ALPA and we WILL be getting the early profit sharing payout.
Nice...
Now to figure out how to play this best for taxes.

It should actually work quite well given all the new job expenses.
Old 09-24-2014 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Roadkill
2. The absolute best way to be sure to have your required month's line-credit low around your desired days off, is to ALREADY have the max amount of credit on the first few days of the month due to a carry-out trip, when going into the PBS build. Less credit to award randomly = better chance of your days off.
Thanks, Roadkill--this was exactly my question!


Originally Posted by Roadkill
3. You probably wouldn't get a trip awarded by PBS on first few days of month, due to above reasons plus that every one else will be trying to front load Nov. So a carry out trip is your best bet.
I'd also wondered about this--the "Thanksgiving Factor." The days I need are early in the month, and over the weekend. As the new guy, of course, weekends are typically tough to come by. I wonder if this will work in my favor in Nov & Dec (when I also need an early weekend off), when everyone else is trying to fill up early and have the Holidays off...?


Thanks also, Check Essential, for the pointers on Reserve vs Regular days off!
Old 09-24-2014 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DALMD88FO
Just got an email back from our retirement lady at ALPA and we WILL be getting the early profit sharing payout.
A MEMO FROM RICHARD

At Delta, we believe long-term success requires that our people, customers and investors win together.

...

In that spirit I think Capt. Donatelli should approach Mr. Anderson and constructively engage him with the following request:

Due to the enormous past sacrifices of all Delta pilots and the critical role we have played in this company's recovery from bankruptcy and subsequent phenomenal profitability, it would be entirely appropriate for the Delta pilots to be included in the 4% April 2015 pay increases.

This would be a large gesture of goodwill on the part of management and a small down payment toward the Contract 2015 negotiations which coincidentally will also begin on that same day, April 1, 2015.

This small gesture, when applied simultaneous with a company-wide wage adjustment, would have the added benefit of somewhat "flying under the radar" of both Wall Street and the other employee groups.

This request seems entirely appropriate and completely equitable.
Let's see if constructive engagement is a 2-way relationship or if it only works when management wants something.
Old 09-24-2014 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Jughead135
Thanks, Roadkill--this was exactly my question!




I'd also wondered about this--the "Thanksgiving Factor." The days I need are early in the month, and over the weekend. As the new guy, of course, weekends are typically tough to come by. I wonder if this will work in my favor in Nov & Dec (when I also need an early weekend off), when everyone else is trying to fill up early and have the Holidays off...?


Thanks also, Check Essential, for the pointers on Reserve vs Regular days off!
From my experience, trying to game the reserve system to fill up early is futile. They will keep you at the bitter end of a long leash, and give you a very dull knife with which to cut it. But also FWIW, I am junior in category, and have gotten a lot of Thanksgiving vacations. It seems to go pretty junior, especially if you bid it for your primary. I even forgot to bid one year and got it. I guess PBS doesn't know about turducken.
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