Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
06-25-2014, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BigLebowski
Can anyone provide a sound projection on what the future holds for Delta in SLC? I tried the search function, and came up empty.
FNG here, wanting to move out to where there are some mountains. SEA and LAX are options too. But, SLC is cheaper.
Thanks in advance.
FNG here, wanting to move out to where there are some mountains. SEA and LAX are options too. But, SLC is cheaper.
Thanks in advance.
06-25-2014, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by daldude
It looks like they are going to reduce the 767 FO's in SLC from 96 to 76 this November according to the staffing report, so I would imagine most of those guys will displace into the 73 and 320.
BTW the projected SLC 7erb category list for DECEMBER shows a count of 93.
ETA - if you were trying to spread doom and gloom about SLC in order to keep senior people from bidding in then you're right, SLC is in a downward death spiral
Stay away, everyone! 
06-25-2014, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by daldude
As a SLC guy I would say if you like being jr and staying junior come on over. I have been at Delta 14 years and am still in the bottom 50% on the 737. I have moved backward 21% in the category over the last 3 years and have never moved up a single number in any bid since spring of 2011. Most Jr capt in the base is a 5600ish. It looks like they are going to reduce the 767 FO's in SLC from 96 to 76 this November according to the staffing report, so I would imagine most of those guys will displace into the 73 and 320. For me I would expect upgrade to capt to be 7-10 years longer in SLC than NY, DTW or ATL. Depending on when you were hired that number could be reduced by a few years. I just flew with a capt who said that the average age capt in the 73 in SLC was 54 1/2 but I don't have any idea if that is true. Just recently the I was talking to regional chief pilot and he said he had been told that SLC was currently the right size and to not expect any future growth. Of course who knows, things change daily. So with all that said it is a choice to live out west, mountains vs money and seniority.
06-25-2014, 03:12 PM
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OK, first, apologize in advance if I'm not getting this stuff.
REG in June, RES in July. Last 5 days off of June, first 10 of July
If I GS a trip that has SPILL in it, Double time in June, single pay over reserve guarantee in June with PB days, correct? (I do understand the trip with trip at the end thing)
Now, If I WS a Spill trip, it's single pay for June, but what happens to pay and the days off that I would be now working on for July? Example: 9 day Asia, 3 days in June (17:00), 6 days in July (40:00) working on 6 normal days off.
Thanks
REG in June, RES in July. Last 5 days off of June, first 10 of July
If I GS a trip that has SPILL in it, Double time in June, single pay over reserve guarantee in June with PB days, correct? (I do understand the trip with trip at the end thing)
Now, If I WS a Spill trip, it's single pay for June, but what happens to pay and the days off that I would be now working on for July? Example: 9 day Asia, 3 days in June (17:00), 6 days in July (40:00) working on 6 normal days off.
Thanks
06-25-2014, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by boog123
OK, first, apologize in advance if I'm not getting this stuff.
REG in June, RES in July. Last 5 days off of June, first 10 of July
If I GS a trip that has SPILL in it, Double time in June, single pay over reserve guarantee in June with PB days, correct? (I do understand the trip with trip at the end thing)
Now, If I WS a Spill trip, it's single pay for June, but what happens to pay and the days off that I would be now working on for July? Example: 9 day Asia, 3 days in June (17:00), 6 days in July (40:00) working on 6 normal days off.
Thanks
REG in June, RES in July. Last 5 days off of June, first 10 of July
If I GS a trip that has SPILL in it, Double time in June, single pay over reserve guarantee in June with PB days, correct? (I do understand the trip with trip at the end thing)
Now, If I WS a Spill trip, it's single pay for June, but what happens to pay and the days off that I would be now working on for July? Example: 9 day Asia, 3 days in June (17:00), 6 days in July (40:00) working on 6 normal days off.
Thanks
ANd remember, any credit is not paid until the end, so if it is not a hard time trip, you would be flying a lot of credit for free (basically)
06-25-2014, 03:16 PM
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Wolfe: Delta’s move into Boston could ultimately prove good news for JetBlue • 6:49 PM
Delta Air Lines (DAL) last week included Boston in its list of key hubs and markets for the first time, worrying JetBlue (JBLU) investors, but Wolfe Research thinks DAL’s decision could be good news for JBLU, much in the way it ultimately was for Alaska Air (ALK).
Wolfe believes JBLU management seeks a 7% return on investment capital this year, but it does not see it happening under the current strategy; the firm figures DAL's growth into Boston might help to force hard choices, as it did for Alaska Air.
ALK shares fell 26% from peak to trough in May-June 2013 on fears of competitive capacity growth, which led it to take action on fees and resulting in ALK stock gains doubling over the next year.
Previous: Aggressive push by Delta Air Lines disrupts rivals.
Delta Air Lines (DAL) last week included Boston in its list of key hubs and markets for the first time, worrying JetBlue (JBLU) investors, but Wolfe Research thinks DAL’s decision could be good news for JBLU, much in the way it ultimately was for Alaska Air (ALK).
Wolfe believes JBLU management seeks a 7% return on investment capital this year, but it does not see it happening under the current strategy; the firm figures DAL's growth into Boston might help to force hard choices, as it did for Alaska Air.
ALK shares fell 26% from peak to trough in May-June 2013 on fears of competitive capacity growth, which led it to take action on fees and resulting in ALK stock gains doubling over the next year.
Previous: Aggressive push by Delta Air Lines disrupts rivals.
06-25-2014, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
You must be really really senior to game THAT greenie. As to the WS question, you would be working on your days off with no recovery of them. (to the best of my knowledge)
ANd remember, any credit is not paid until the end, so if it is not a hard time trip, you would be flying a lot of credit for free (basically)
ANd remember, any credit is not paid until the end, so if it is not a hard time trip, you would be flying a lot of credit for free (basically)
06-25-2014, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
I would think it is safe since we are about to spend a boatload of $$$ on a new terminal.
06-25-2014, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
You must be really really senior to game THAT greenie. As to the WS question, you would be working on your days off with no recovery of them. (to the best of my knowledge)
ANd remember, any credit is not paid until the end, so if it is not a hard time trip, you would be flying a lot of credit for free (basically)
ANd remember, any credit is not paid until the end, so if it is not a hard time trip, you would be flying a lot of credit for free (basically)
06-25-2014, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by gzsg
SWA non pilot costs are through the roof since they never went through Chapter 11.
IMO their nightmare has begun. Simply look at their on time performance, 10% behind us.
I believe they will have a long slow descent to bankruptcy that will take a decade.
IMO their nightmare has begun. Simply look at their on time performance, 10% behind us.
I believe they will have a long slow descent to bankruptcy that will take a decade.
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