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Old 07-07-2014 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by finis72
It seems my fellow APCer's think this is a thought provoking or thought challenging post. I think it is a thoughtless post or at best an empty bravado post. The generation you mentioned had to deal with; de-regulation, oil increasing 300%, bankruptcy, 3 mergers, MoRon , Mullins Carpetbaggers, 2 wars, an airline friendly congress and a labor friendly NLRB ( last 2 TIC ).

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I hope in 20 years when I'm senile ( more senile ) I can look in and judge your generation as being better than ours but you will have many major battles to fight and I truly hope you succeed.
What made NERD's post interesting to me was turning the conversation to a different topic: the next generation.

I don't think it's important to indict or congratulate the current generation, or award "good" and "bad" labels to individuals that participated. Instead, I think it's time to talk about what we're going to do next.
Old 07-07-2014 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
What made NERD's post interesting to me was turning the conversation to a different topic: the next generation.

I don't think it's important to indict or congratulate the current generation, or award "good" and "bad" labels to individuals that participated. Instead, I think it's time to talk about what we're going to do next.
I think it's always better to look forward, yesterday is just that, yesterday.
Old 07-07-2014 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
What I would like to see is more mentoring, more of D-ALPA's subject matter experts assigning tasks, under supervision, to their bench. Training these guys up with the lessons learned and the relationships needed to get the pilots' work done.
That makes sense. I agree completely that the bench should be deeper. I'd like to see term limits as a device to ensure new blood is required, and cycled through.

As for your point about regional guys coming up, I hope they don't get so wrapped-up around the relationship between mainline and regionals, that they lose track of the forest and the trees.

I tend to think the regional model is broken, and pilot recruitment issues will only accelerate the inevitable end. I suspect that flying will continue to migrate home naturally, and I would be nervous about guys trying to purchase it. When it gets to the point where management recognizes it, and shrinks the outsourced portion on their own, and doesn't even use the allotted 50-seaters, then we can negotiate to lock in the new numbers.

I'm OK with the Scope trade in C2012, but it's now more and more obvious that up-gaging, and transferring flying to mainline, is a logical process, driven by economics. Let's be patient, not yield anything on the RJ side, and focus on the large-gauge end of the outsourcing spectrum.
Old 07-07-2014 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Gnewt
Hey all,

Quick diversion from the gun fight here. Anyone know where I can get the direct phone numbers for layover hotels? The only one I can find sends you to the central reservations number. PM me if you have security concerns.

Thanks......G
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Old 07-07-2014 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by gzsg
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I.admire your passion. While the MEC is very junior and you are.well.represented, the power lies with insiders who have been around for a.long time. These insiders do management's bidding.

If you want to restore our profession and your future, focus on protecting profit.sharing and preventing pay banding.

Our concessions are no longer necessary. Why would we grant more?

This contract is make or break. Get your group active. We have a good MEC except for Randy and Buzz. Contact them often. They will listen.
I mostly agree except for the bold part.

I've said probably a dozen times on here that profit sharing is a scam to make you feel "like part of the organization". Give me dollars that can't be manipulated by the accountants, either in direct compensation or work rules. For the life of me, I don't know how we ever got on this profit sharing bandwagon?

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Old 07-07-2014 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
I hope they don't get so wrapped-up around the relationship between mainline and regionals, that they lose track of the forest and the trees.
Ask a B Scale guy how he felt about B Scale. It is a similar political dynamic.
Old 07-07-2014 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
There were two missteps in my mind that ALPA and the other unions had a part in:
1. Pre-bankruptcy concessions
2. Permitted flying operated as Alter Ego flying

Both of these are things, the union's legal departments knew what the result would be, and they did it anyway.
I would narrow that down to the concept of selling jobs for pay. A union owes all of it's members the same representational obligation. It is immoral to use the loss of one pilot's unemployment to give another pilot a pay subsidy.
Old 07-07-2014 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by cni187
Hey Ferd, was it you I was supposed to see on the corner barstool at Godfather's? I met the owner instead and the tower air traffic controller. Super Stars is running a bit old for this 2010 hire. Carl are you here??!
I sure do miss Saipan and especially Godfathers! I'm hoping that someday we'll service it directly from SEA on da big bus so I can get back there Is Bobby Cadillac's still open? Just about the best Rubin I've ever had anywhere.

I haven't been in Super Stars in like forever. We're mostly overflying NRT out of SEA these days.

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Old 07-07-2014 | 02:47 PM
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You can also go onto the Net and select your aircraft type and then Hotels on the bottom right. It takes you right to the hotel's website. Also good for checking out eating and workout potential.
Old 07-07-2014 | 02:48 PM
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New Email from SD:


Surface Tablets will show up for everyone (even those that opted out with the BOYD), "We estimate distribution will begin in early August and will be complete in late September."

Thus, it has slipped another month to the right.

This is getting ridonkuloous!!!!

I'm glad Microsoft is a strategic business partners so get them to help with these stupid programs that will not work on half baked operating system that the Surface's will be running.
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