Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
You know I love ya NewK, but it's not too much to ask of an anchor for them to actually listen to the person they're interviewing. Then make your follow up questions based upon what the person being interviewed actually says.
It's also not too much to ask of a network to vet anyone they're going to put on the air live. And if you can't vet them, at least put them on a 10 second delay.
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Carl
It's because ALL the 24/7 news outlets hire talking heads with perfect hair/teeth/boobs and only ask what a producer in their headset asks. I'm not sure which is worse in that regard, FOX or MSNBC. One seems to prefer blonds
TIME OUT TIME OUT TIME OUT
for a technical question.............
I'm trying to do a swap with the pot. I'm swapping a trip later in Aug with any one of 4 trips earlier in Aug. Currently I have 4 separate swaps in, but can I do them in one? Will the system look at the first one I want then roll into the second I want etc. Or, did I do it right with 4 independent requests?
Ferd
for a technical question.............
I'm trying to do a swap with the pot. I'm swapping a trip later in Aug with any one of 4 trips earlier in Aug. Currently I have 4 separate swaps in, but can I do them in one? Will the system look at the first one I want then roll into the second I want etc. Or, did I do it right with 4 independent requests?
Ferd
Hey, I'm just trying to be like your guy Obama. You know, the most transparent member of APC in history?

Carl
Just a what if. If... there were 5 year category freezes, what if they had a pilot friendly "out". For example, what if you could put in your bid as a condition that if you got the bid based on a number/percentage, if you ever fell below that number/percentage, your freeze was lifted? I am not saying that I am in favor of 5 year freezes, but if they had a way out for things caused by management, they might be more acceptable. If management wants something that is viewed as onerous, if that can be eviscerated, it might not be so bad.
There was an airline in a galaxy far far away where you were either line or reserve. If you bid and could hold a line then you were a line holder. Way too many moving parts to try and do that now of course (i.e. temping to reserve some months) for me to suggest going back.
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A plan cannot be developed until the objective is set. I would start with setting the objective of restoring our contract so that our compensation and work rules provide a standard of living comparable to what Delta pilots experienced in the 1980's though early 2000's time frame. I would communicate this objective clearly so that all concerned (line pilots, management, Wall Street, etc.) are aware of it. Accompanying this would be a lot of material showing exactly how much of a hit we've taken over the past decade, how much it would take to restore our compensation going forward, and how little pilot costs actually are in the grand scheme of things. Might not hurt to show how other employees (especially management) have mostly or even completely recovered (and in some cases even exceeded) their buying power from 10 years ago. What is DALPA's objective? Do you even know? Do any of us even know??
BTW, I don't disagree with you about not focusing solely on pay rates. Whatever it takes to increase the W2. Pay rates, work rules, or some combination of the two. Bottom line is that our compensation needs about a 50% boost for our buying power to be fully restored. That might be a little steep, given how much of a hole DALPA has dug us into over the past decade by acting like bankruptcy level compensation is the new normal and we're just happy for ANY improvement to that. So I might could agree to Jerry's 20% (to W2, not necessarily just pay rates) on day one... as long as the subsequent years of the contract provided some pretty significant improvements as well.
BTW, I don't disagree with you about not focusing solely on pay rates. Whatever it takes to increase the W2. Pay rates, work rules, or some combination of the two. Bottom line is that our compensation needs about a 50% boost for our buying power to be fully restored. That might be a little steep, given how much of a hole DALPA has dug us into over the past decade by acting like bankruptcy level compensation is the new normal and we're just happy for ANY improvement to that. So I might could agree to Jerry's 20% (to W2, not necessarily just pay rates) on day one... as long as the subsequent years of the contract provided some pretty significant improvements as well.
The second is stating how little we cost. Pilot costs have historically run from 6 to 10 percent of the cost to produce our product. You will not find anyone who has ever run a business call that little especially in view of the fact this is a industry with many fixed costs.
When you start this campaign management will simply state that Delta pilots are the best compensated pilots in the US passenger airline industry. The rest will fall to the NMB. What is your plan for them.
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