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Old 07-18-2014 | 08:26 AM
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T,

Sorry for my previous comment, now I understand..........all the best my friend, so sorry to hear.

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Old 07-18-2014 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Hug your mothers gentlemen.
So sorry, T.
Old 07-18-2014 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by gzsg
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Our execs have averaged over 20% annually in increases over the past 5 years. Why do you think pilots are so worthless?

If they make a mistake, they could get a paper cut and it could get infected. If we make a mistake..........
Please, please, please don't take this the wrong way, but they could pay RA 100 percent more and it will not even move the employee expense line on the ledger a smidgen. Increasing the wages of 12000 pilots by a rate of 20 percent will have a much different consequence.

This is not to say we should not expect 20 percent on day one, just that it costs the corporation a lot more than to award it to one individual.
Old 07-18-2014 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
That's exactly right.

You know I love ya NewK, but it's not too much to ask of an anchor for them to actually listen to the person they're interviewing. Then make your follow up questions based upon what the person being interviewed actually says.

It's also not too much to ask of a network to vet anyone they're going to put on the air live. And if you can't vet them, at least put them on a 10 second delay.

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I don't see what she did as being all that unreasonable. I'm sure I would have done the exact same thing.

Where I'm from, you can't fight with everyone who curses at you -- It's best to wait until they reach for their gun.
Old 07-18-2014 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Any way to copy/save your monthly sched from iCrew onto your iPhone so that you can access a copy of it without connecting?
Icrew max shows u your schedule and open time both with no connection, once you've downloaded them. I always browse them in airplane mode while flying.
Old 07-18-2014 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Hug your mothers gentlemen.
I hope everything is ok with your mom, Ts.
Old 07-18-2014 | 08:44 AM
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I hugged my mom for the last time just a year ago. If you still can...Hug yours every chance you get.
Old 07-18-2014 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by gzsg
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Our execs have averaged over 20% annually in increases over the past 5 years. Why do you think pilots are so worthless?

If they make a mistake, they could get a paper cut and it could get infected. If we make a mistake..........
I suspect with stock options there raises are a order of magnitude higher then your stating. However it's irrelevant to our pay.
Old 07-18-2014 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
A 3 year contract that provides a 20% increase in compensation over the 3 years without any degradation in work rules along with a 2% bump in retirement will ratify easily if it's done by the amendable date. Flame away!
I'll take a 20% increase in retirement and a 2% bump in pay.
Old 07-18-2014 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Honestly I don't know what is achievable. When you look at the 2013 pilot cost numbers they don't help us a bit. Not one other airline has stepped up since 2002 and done anything. There are also a lot of varibles yet to be determined. The obvious big one is the political landscape. That is why we have a lot of smart people working for us. I already put a post up on how the process works. We will have to feel out the NMB and then make a judgement on how much political pressure we can bring upon them when needed. We will have to look at future projected earnings. Perhaps most important of all will be providing a road map of how we anticipate a new contract forcing other airlines to our level.
Asking for a minimum of 20% up front would end talks at that point. Management will simply ride the process. It will be a long and bumpy ride for us and we won't be allowed off the wagon until the NMB views us as being reasonable. RA is a smart man and understands costs as well as anyone. He would never allow his costs in any area to get that far out of control.
What I want in the end is somewhat irrelevant. I can tell you this however. A 3 year contract that provides a 20% increase in compensation over the 3 years without any degradation in work rules along with a 2% bump in retirement will ratify easily if it's done by the amendable date. Flame away!


I think we might be in good shape here. I think UCAL pay-rates go to 2016 and 2017 and lag us by about a year, so their current contract will eventually surpasses our 2015 pay-rates

AMR has the snap up to the average of DAL and UCAL and maybe someone else?

USAIR is no longer pulling down the weighted average pay.

SWA is the big wildcard - it would be nice to see them get a big increase and pull everyone else up.

FWIW - at the LAX 16 meeting the above was basically alluded to - any increase in our compensation would greatly influence the compensation of our competition. This could help us out quite a bit.

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