Crew Tracking is right. You are obligated to be on duty for two hours after the MAX printed on your rotation. It looks like this:

ON DUTY
ACT/MAX

7.41/11.09

So you are obligated to be ON DUTY until 13.09. You may voluntarily extent two hours after that. Read your contract.

FAR117 is something totally different. It looks like this:

12.00/14.00/9.00

That is the max you may operate the aircraft, even if you are ON DUTY later than that. To deadhead for example. You are done flying the aircraft at 12.00 unless you volunteer to extend to 14.00. And of course no more than 9.00 block.

Tell 'em you are done flying the airplane at 12.00. Then tell them you are going to a hotel or going home at 13.10.

In my opinion there will be 3000 initial quals in 2018 raising to 6000 in 2022 due to the retirements and resultant waterfall should we not make concessions on pay banding/longer freezes.

Imagine the number of additional seniority list instructors required for IOE and Theater qual. The additional pilots required to cover line flying while these pilots are in training.

Now imagine cutting them in half.

There is no need to make concessions. We have given enough to last 2 lifetimes.

Jerry

^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^

Can a reserve pilot be given tag on flying after reaching base at the end of a rotation or does that contractual provision only apply to line holders?

Carl,

I'm just a lurker. God willing, this will be the only post I make, as arguing on the internet is a bit like racing in the Special Olympics - even if you win, you're still...well, you know.

That said, I need to correct one thing. I don't expect you to believe me, but perhaps others might.

Your rep is either lying to you or he has a bad memory.

I was there. Every step of the way. I was at every meeting, in every closed and executive section, and on every conference call. I assure you, the MEC knew from the start of negotiations that 76-seaters were on the table, and knew that reductions in profit sharing were being discussed near the end-game. If I cared enough to get out my notes, I'd find you the exact dates of the meetings during which we discussed the RJs, and the conference call during which the profit sharing reduction was discussed.

Perhaps your source missed some meetings and calls, but that doesn't mean that they didn't happen. The idea that the admin just went rouge, while widespread (by some with a questionable agenda), is simply false.

Feel free to believe me or not. Your choice. But those reading your posts should know that just because something is repeated often doesn't make it true.

I'll leave you guys to your arguing! Enjoy!

Perhaps you can consult your notes and tell us more about why the NC bypassed the reps' direction.

We'll leave you to your FPL. Enjoy!

Exactly.. I know many of the reps very well (N and S) and that is exactly what they said. I would love to know who that was actually there says that the jumbos were not on the table from day 1.

They didn't.

I'm not on FPL (though I'm very glad that some are - not sure why or how that became a bad thing).

Damn! Two posts! I'm being dragged in!