Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
07-16-2014 | 06:15 PM
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sailing, I think you might be pleasantly surprised. Profit sharing was 8.2% last year, and I believe our YTD profits far exceed this time last year, so I don't think 12-15% is out of the realm of possibilities.
As for trading PS for pay, I hate to admit I actually agree with Jerry on this one. My reasoning is much different from his though.
Management wants/needs the flexibility to reduce costs when revenues turn south which they inevitably do in this industry. So, tying a portion of pilot costs to profit sharing means they might pay more than they want in good times, but get to pay less in bad times. And in the long run, I think we end up with more pay with a profit sharing component because of that. They can't argue they can't afford the profit sharing piece, because by definition, it's coming out of profits. And they can keep our hourly rate in line with the competition, but if Delta does well, we can all benefit from that.
I say, don't touch it. And I've been around long enough to fully realize this economic cycle will end, and our PS will dry up in the coming years; but I'm still OK with that.
As for trading PS for pay, I hate to admit I actually agree with Jerry on this one. My reasoning is much different from his though.
Management wants/needs the flexibility to reduce costs when revenues turn south which they inevitably do in this industry. So, tying a portion of pilot costs to profit sharing means they might pay more than they want in good times, but get to pay less in bad times. And in the long run, I think we end up with more pay with a profit sharing component because of that. They can't argue they can't afford the profit sharing piece, because by definition, it's coming out of profits. And they can keep our hourly rate in line with the competition, but if Delta does well, we can all benefit from that.
I say, don't touch it. And I've been around long enough to fully realize this economic cycle will end, and our PS will dry up in the coming years; but I'm still OK with that.
07-16-2014 | 06:24 PM
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Did you bookmark that or something? 
And I tried and tried and couldn't find where a post of PD's got deleted. I can see all deleted posts, so if one was deleted, it was reinstated.
Eitherway, hopefully we can move on from that miserable food fight and maybe take bets on how junior A goes on this beastly bid.
I'll say mid 9000s.
And I tried and tried and couldn't find where a post of PD's got deleted. I can see all deleted posts, so if one was deleted, it was reinstated.
Eitherway, hopefully we can move on from that miserable food fight and maybe take bets on how junior A goes on this beastly bid.
I'll say mid 9000s.
07-16-2014 | 06:33 PM
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NRT-SFO in under a minute and a half:
07-16-2014 | 06:47 PM
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Have an all dark video...the late night DTW to HND...oh boy!
07-16-2014 | 07:00 PM
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Did you bookmark that or something?
And I tried and tried and couldn't find where a post of PD's got deleted. I can see all deleted posts, so if one was deleted, it was reinstated.
Eitherway, hopefully we can move on from that miserable food fight and maybe take bets on how junior A goes on this beastly bid.
I'll say mid 9000s.
And I tried and tried and couldn't find where a post of PD's got deleted. I can see all deleted posts, so if one was deleted, it was reinstated.
Eitherway, hopefully we can move on from that miserable food fight and maybe take bets on how junior A goes on this beastly bid.
I'll say mid 9000s.
Let the new hires deal with this crap.
07-16-2014 | 07:03 PM
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07-16-2014 | 07:12 PM
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Guys, the rotation survey participation is woefully inadequate. I've been a slacker but just finished it. It take about 10 minutes.
07-16-2014 | 07:16 PM
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It would not surprise me to see people down bidding for QOL issues with our schedules this tight & FAR 117. It isn't an easy choice, but back, to back, to back, to back coverage awards which mix 4am arrivals with red eyes with 4:30 vans are nearly unflyable.
Let the new hires deal with this crap.
Let the new hires deal with this crap.
07-16-2014 | 07:19 PM
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