Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Here's the problem with this Bar: Anybody with such an incredible lack of integrity could have had similar "success." Moak was given the keys to ALPA by the reps to look out for the the airline pilot profession. Instead, he used the position to strengthen airline management at every turn. It took no talent or skill to do that. Only the willingness to turn your back on the people who gave you your power.
No different than if Moak had been elected as the Israeli prime minister, then he used that position to give Jerusalem to the Palestinians. Without question the United Nations and the entire Arab world would hail Moak as the great leader who finally brought peace to the Middle East. But what would Israelis think of their leader's actions? Maybe they'd say he looks good in a suit.
Carl
No different than if Moak had been elected as the Israeli prime minister, then he used that position to give Jerusalem to the Palestinians. Without question the United Nations and the entire Arab world would hail Moak as the great leader who finally brought peace to the Middle East. But what would Israelis think of their leader's actions? Maybe they'd say he looks good in a suit.

Carl
Yours' is not an entirely untrue metaphor, but unlike the majority of Israelis, I do not agree that any other pilot group has a right to autonomy in our land.
I disagree with some of Lee Moak's strategies. I do not have any questions about his intensions or his integrity. My impression is that he desires what is best for the Delta pilots and he believes what is best for us is best for the rest of the profession. Where we differ (I think, it has been a long while since we spoke on the topic) is that my approach is more holistic whereby what is best for the profession is best for us.
Lee Moak's track record, measured objectively, puts us near the top of our profession by making very astute use of incremental opportunities. That's just good business under the RLA.
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Thanks ... but I'm flying the trip. Had a long layover and was going to get him to the USAF Museum at Wright-Patterson. Dad was Air Force and a very close friend of ours worked for Gen. Schriever. When our friend passed away we transferred some of his personal effects to the museum and wanted to check in.
I don't care how good the quarterback looks. What I care about is what he produces. I realize this "quarterback" had to come in after we were down about 32 points. We went down another 10 points after he got in the game, and after years and years of "playing" we're still down about 34 points. Not sure whether the lack of production is due to poor quarterback play, poor offensive line play, or some combination, but I'm not impressed. Success in football requires more than just "being on the field." The really bad part is that this "quarterback" thinks his team is doing great and, even worse, he seems to have convinced quite a few of us that being down 34 points is an acceptable performance.
So looking forward to football season!!!
In any case, I didn't really consider sending it to my reps or CA. Based on my correspondence earlier this year with my reps and the scheduling committee chair regarding the FAR 117 8 hour uninterrupted sleep opportunity, I suspect they would have agreed with Crew Tracking and not with me.
Very true. We still have quite a hole out of which to dig ourselves. The other difference is that we do not now have one of our closest competitors (UAL) setting a bar above us over which we can climb by 1%. The good news is that our profit margins are now finally even higher than they were in the late 90's.
I just wish someone from Dalpa would check the insane reroutes occasionally!
Tracking just this week changed the rotations of not less than 8 crewmembers thru reroute just to get a maint. ferry to ATL, when it would have been simple to just DH 2 crew to fly the flight back!

Tracking just this week changed the rotations of not less than 8 crewmembers thru reroute just to get a maint. ferry to ATL, when it would have been simple to just DH 2 crew to fly the flight back!

Back when Delta actually trained its pilots, the cockpit panels were often mounted on a trainee's hotel walls and used for chair flying in between bouts of studying systems and preparing for orals.
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Yes, but then we got MD88's and nothing worked the way it was supposed to and they figured ... to hell with it. If you teach them how it supposed to work then they just ask a lot of questions and write it up at outstations.
Training today ... just make sure the bleeds and generators are on.
Fuel pump switches to be operated by the second revision to the bulletin which was the supplement to the third FOM publication for the year; pending FAA approval.
Don't do anything else unless the Captain or QRH tell you to.
Fuel pump switches to be operated by the second revision to the bulletin which was the supplement to the third FOM publication for the year; pending FAA approval.
Don't do anything else unless the Captain or QRH tell you to.
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