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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1698096)

BTW, given the beer summit is at my house... you know I don't drink right?

IF you end up making me drink...

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/119...the-tank-o.gif

We are going to KFC.

http://regularhealthycompetition.com...k-the-Tank.jpg

And I will get banned from this website... and my pemband is going to be glorious. I might take a third of you heathens with me.

So we're drinking at FTB's, & then......we're going streaking!!! Wait.......is this really a good idea? :eek:

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Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1697630)

Clamp and Scambo,

In all honesty, I can see the contradiction in Clamps post. On the one hand he says "Who cares about what aircraft type?" But then in the very same post he says " However, this is top end jobs at DL being whisked away actively."

That, to me, says Clamp does care about what aircraft types are out there. Maybe I misinterpreted his post but that's the way it came across to me.

Denny

Scambo got it right. :) It's the weekend, so that mean's I'm doing central american day trips, hence long days of no Clamp response!

FTB lives about 20 minutes from me. I'm down for crashing his pad! (raises a torpedo)

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Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1698124)

So we're drinking at FTB's, & then......we're going streaking!!! Wait.......is this really a good idea? :eek:

Oh, Hell yeah!! Maybe RA will come over to FTBs and we'll have a real beer summit! I'm betting he'd be all over it. Not quite sure how Mrs. FTB would feel.

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1697565)

I have 5000 hours in 73s..... and probably where I'll wind up by the time we are finished getting rid of bigger. But I agree, it's no 757, not by a longshot.

I hope you never have to do this, but if you sat at the controls of a -900 after all the time in a 757, you'd be bewildered to come up with any stretch of any imagination that it is a suitable, key: suitable, replacement for the 757.

Word is HNL mechanics are going to school for the 900. Islands, here they come. Anyone remember the small provision slipped into the last loa?...

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Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1698137)

Oh, Hell yeah!! Maybe RA will come over to FTBs and we'll have a real beer summit! I'm betting he'd be all over it. Not quite sure how Mrs. FTB would feel.

I'm pretty sure it's limited to streaking, watching the Kelly Files, drinking Torpedos, and watching FtB do Frank the Tank. Feeling Mrs. FtB is off the table.

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Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1697491)

My understanding is that the company has to tell DALPA that it is the final bid of the year 2014, and therefore the bid where the fences won't apply.

I predict we will see a bid in November with the earliest conversion date being 01DEC2014 for the conversion window. This will be the last bid with the fences.

The following bid would be put out in January 2015 with the earliest conversion date being 31JAN2015 for the conversion window. This would be the first bid without fences.

This is JMHO after reading MEC Updates 13-08 and 14-05. Those say that the Company will post its final advance entitlement or displacement bid in 2014 such that the bid will open and close and the first conversion date under the bid will occur on or before the first day of the December 2014 bid period. That bid is supposed to be identified as the final bid in which the Conditions and Restrictions of the BEH award will be applied. After that bid, they are not supposed to post a subsequent advance entitlement or displacement bid until after the first day of the January 2015 bid period. That bid will be identified as the first bid in which all eligible pilots will participate following the expiration of the fences.

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Originally Posted by Burn Notice (Post 1698119)

Finally, someone else noticed the sly backhand against The Tide!

I know, FTB, I just hit the no-fly list and quite possibly the TOTD thread, but I couldn't resist. ;)

You are banned from the no-fly list, get ready, because you'll be stuck with me on a downtown JAN sooner or later.

http://common-sense.blogspot.com/homerpoint.jpg

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Originally Posted by Jughead (Post 1698180)

I'm pretty sure it's limited to streaking, watching the Kelly Files, drinking Torpedos, and watching FtB do Frank the Tank. Feeling Mrs. FtB is off the table.

"Hey honey, yeah, my friends from the internet are coming over to drink beer in our basement and our curious as to what would happen if I taste the sweet nectar of beer, I mean draft, cold one, libation, brewskie, oat soda, cerveza, barley pop, puke fuel, boredom-be-gone, loudmouth soup, real man's Zima, Homer Juice, keg guts, beeeeeer!, pre-pee, weed's best friend, rocketsauce, mother, varsity Shirley Temple, time travel in a bottle, suds, soldier, Gutterade, barley legal, bitter batter, liquid bread, silly seltzer, brew dog, giggle water, liquid courage, pre-spiked punch, bubbly muscles, hard O'Douls, social lubricant, icanbeatithome, secret ingredient X, tummy buster, brain hammer, elbow benders, daddy's milk, redneck wine, 12 oz. curl, antidote, hello-goodbye, potent potable, chugger's delight, liquid wrecking ball, hops scotch, un-water."

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1697556)

Since the number of flights is about 2.5 flights a day they have lacked to be in compliance it almost certainly would have to be handled under the grievance process. What we ask for in return is the issue. I don't think there is a real way to figure out damages on a individual basis. I would like to see us ask for a raise equal to the lost salary and a penalty of say 3% on top of that for all pilots to insure future compliance by the company. Probably be about a 3.25% raise.
I would also like to see the arbitrator attach a higher penalty via a additional raise if they do not come into compliance in the next 36 month cycle.
Note: not sure if the above is within the arbitration rules but I hope so.

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1697563)

I like the idea of staffing for the flying whether or not the flights are flown. That fixes the problem going forward. The past infractions can be monetized since you can't retroactively staff.

I think this is achievable in the negotiation/grievance process. Carl mentioned ending the JV but I doubt an arbitrator would force the company to stop commerce. The punishment doesn't fit the crime and it doesn't even really help Delta pilots.

It's my understanding that while an arbitrator could certainly rule for damages in almost anyway they see fit, they tend to avoid "coming down with the throw hammer" on one side or the other as a matter a self preservation. Ultimately the arbitrators on the standing list used for the Delta Pilot's System Board of Adjustment (11 neutrals total) are selected by both parties. If an arbitrator is viewed as going off the reservation by one side or the other, they could find themselves either no longer on the list or consistently one of the first ones struck from the list when choosing a neutral for a specific case. If you don't get selected, you're not getting paid. Granted, these same arbitrators are used at virtually every airline and Delta is certainly not the only source of income by any stretch, but the logic still applies.

For the record, I much prefer the throw hammer with the JV issue at hand.

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1697635)

Man I hear you GG. I fly a lot on us and other carriers. Buzzpat is right about American's product...it sucks. After our merger, Delta had the worst product out there. If I absolutely needed to be at a meeting, I avoided Delta at all costs. Now I fly on us almost exclusively because it's the best product of any US airline. But the one thing that drives me crazy is the sheer amount and length of PA's at Delta. It is so distracting that most do their best to tune them out. I wish we could improve on that.

Carl

Preach it brother Carl!! I couldn't agree more. The length of the announcements drives me bonkers. You tell the FAs it'll be a short taxi, but sure enough, you're number 1 and that PA has just gotten to the part about the life vests. :mad: