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My point was never it's not better now than then. My point is it's not as good as it should be. Yes Wall Street has been making out like a bandit because the Fed is creating trillions out of thin air and pumping up the banks and Brokerage Houses. Joe and Betty six-pack are not benefiting from that. We are adding jobs but not enough to keep up with the rate of population growth. We need 250K jobs a month just to break even. The only reason the U3 number is below 7% is the Labor Participation Rate is as low has its ever been. We are adding government jobs and part time service jobs.
Economies are cyclical. Had we done absolutely nothing in 2008 the economy would have recovered eventually on its own because of millions of people making free choices driving the market. Had we followed the blueprint provided us in 1982 we would have grown out of the recession much sooner than now. By following the polices of the 30s we have exacerbated the situation and we are still dragging an anchor. And yes you can bring Stella, that girl from St. Paulie, and if you can find it, some Badonk-A-Dunkel. Oh, and if Carl shows I'll be sure to have some of this on hand. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-nL4lfS_V4L...antBastard.jpg :D:D |
Originally Posted by satchip
(Post 1697913)
FIIGMO we could argue this all day and night and we are venturing away from the original question but I think you are mistaken. The media spent 8 years down talking the economy calling it a recession when we had over 3% growth and unemployment at 5%. It's no wonder you and others still blame GWB for the economy, it's been drummed into you for years. Look at the data though and you will see he had a robust economy and job market until the 2006 elections put the Wicked Witch of the West and Dirty Harry in charge of Congress. The job losses and economic slowdown began then.
We really need an APC beer summit somewhere. I vote 80s basement. If you know how to do that I am all ears! |
Originally Posted by NERD
(Post 1697930)
What does she look like and will she display some underboob?:D
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Originally Posted by satchip
(Post 1697946)
My point was never it's not better now than then. My point is it's not as good as it should be. Yes Wall Street has been making out like a bandit because the Fed is creating trillions out of thin air and pumping up the banks and Brokerage Houses. Joe and Betty six-pack are not benefiting from that. We are adding jobs but not enough to keep up with the rate of population growth. We need 250K jobs a month just to break even. The only reason the U3 number is below 7% is the Labor Participation Rate is as low has its ever been. We are adding government jobs and part time service jobs.
Economies are cyclical. Had we done absolutely nothing in 2008 the economy would have recovered eventually on its own because of millions of people making free choices driving the market. Had we followed the blueprint provided us in 1982 we would have grown out of the recession much sooner than now. By following the polices of the 30s we have exacerbated the situation and we are still dragging an anchor. And yes you can bring Stella, that girl from St. Paulie, and if you can find it, some Badonk-A-Dunkel. Oh, and if Carl shows I'll be sure to have some of this on hand. With this government, nothing is as good as it should be. We get it, because we allow for it to be paid for. Drink order -- noted. :D |
To show this is a neutral equal opportunity beer summit they'll be this for Johnson, PG, Slow, et al.
http://aleheads.files.wordpress.com/...laboration.jpg For Bar there will be this. http://s3.amazonaws.com/foodspotting...jpg?1376768466 And for all the guys based in SLC we will have plenty of http://aleheads.files.wordpress.com/...amy-porter.jpg |
Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
(Post 1697942)
Up until 2008 the economy was doing well enough especially when compared to the dismal "recovery" these past 6 years have shown us. GWB can hardly be blamed for the housing crisis that caused 2008. Any honest assessment of history will show that. That's why GWB will be treated better in the history books than BHO will, unless they're written by academics who ignore the facts. In general: GWB - bad decision to go into Iraq. BHO - bad at everything else, except protecting the environment and changing his views in favor of gay marriage for political benefit.
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1697421)
What about the posts in response to your false assertions Starcheck? Do their interference in your personal narrative (and the ALPA PAC's narrative) make a dent?
OK, I did. This is from the list of non-incumbents to which ALPA PAC supported financially for House and Senate seats: 2007-2008: Democrats 21...Republicsns 0 2009-2010: Democrats 24...Republicans 3 2011-2012: Democrats 40...Republicans 5 2013-2014: Democrats 21...Republicans 1 My statements that ALPA and the ALPA PAC are left wing organizations and not at all "pilot partisan" stands. Carl http://www.alpa.org/portals/alpa/dep...useInc2014.pdf |
Originally Posted by satchip
(Post 1697946)
Oh, and if Carl shows I'll be sure to have some of this on hand.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-nL4lfS_V4L...antBastard.jpg :D http://cdn.hark.com/images/000/448/4...2/original.jpg Carl |
Originally Posted by Rather B Fishin
(Post 1697957)
That's great that you know how to cherry pick the list.
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1697421)
OK, I did. This is from the list of non-incumbents to which ALPA PAC supported financially for House and Senate seats:
2007-2008: Democrats 21...Republicsns 0 2009-2010: Democrats 24...Republicans 3 2011-2012: Democrats 40...Republicans 5 2013-2014: Democrats 21...Republicans 1
Originally Posted by Rather B Fishin
(Post 1697957)
Here's the link for the list donations to the incumbents. It surely doesn't look as skewed as the non-incumbents.
http://www.alpa.org/portals/alpa/dep...useInc2014.pdf
Originally Posted by Rather B Fishin
(Post 1697957)
I guess being TOTALLY forthcoming doesn't fit with your argument?
Carl |
Originally Posted by newKnow
(Post 1697956)
Ok, Gunship. We will have to discuss that at the beer summit. :D
Let's debate new! Or we can wait until you get bumped down to the 73 in LA and we can chat on the red eye to RDU.:D;) |
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