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Old 08-02-2014 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
I have 5000 hours in 73s..... and probably where I'll wind up by the time we are finished getting rid of bigger. But I agree, it's no 757, not by a longshot.
I hope you never have to do this, but if you sat at the controls of a -900 after all the time in a 757, you'd be bewildered to come up with any stretch of any imagination that it is a suitable, key: suitable, replacement for the 757.

Word is HNL mechanics are going to school for the 900. Islands, here they come. Anyone remember the small provision slipped into the last loa?...
Old 08-03-2014 | 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Oh, Hell yeah!! Maybe RA will come over to FTBs and we'll have a real beer summit! I'm betting he'd be all over it. Not quite sure how Mrs. FTB would feel.
I'm pretty sure it's limited to streaking, watching the Kelly Files, drinking Torpedos, and watching FtB do Frank the Tank. Feeling Mrs. FtB is off the table.
Old 08-03-2014 | 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
My understanding is that the company has to tell DALPA that it is the final bid of the year 2014, and therefore the bid where the fences won't apply.
I predict we will see a bid in November with the earliest conversion date being 01DEC2014 for the conversion window. This will be the last bid with the fences.

The following bid would be put out in January 2015 with the earliest conversion date being 31JAN2015 for the conversion window. This would be the first bid without fences.

This is JMHO after reading MEC Updates 13-08 and 14-05. Those say that the Company will post its final advance entitlement or displacement bid in 2014 such that the bid will open and close and the first conversion date under the bid will occur on or before the first day of the December 2014 bid period. That bid is supposed to be identified as the final bid in which the Conditions and Restrictions of the BEH award will be applied. After that bid, they are not supposed to post a subsequent advance entitlement or displacement bid until after the first day of the January 2015 bid period. That bid will be identified as the first bid in which all eligible pilots will participate following the expiration of the fences.
Old 08-03-2014 | 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Burn Notice
Finally, someone else noticed the sly backhand against The Tide!

I know, FTB, I just hit the no-fly list and quite possibly the TOTD thread, but I couldn't resist.
You are banned from the no-fly list, get ready, because you'll be stuck with me on a downtown JAN sooner or later.

Old 08-03-2014 | 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Jughead
I'm pretty sure it's limited to streaking, watching the Kelly Files, drinking Torpedos, and watching FtB do Frank the Tank. Feeling Mrs. FtB is off the table.
"Hey honey, yeah, my friends from the internet are coming over to drink beer in our basement and our curious as to what would happen if I taste the sweet nectar of beer, I mean draft, cold one, libation, brewskie, oat soda, cerveza, barley pop, puke fuel, boredom-be-gone, loudmouth soup, real man's Zima, Homer Juice, keg guts, beeeeeer!, pre-pee, weed's best friend, rocketsauce, mother, varsity Shirley Temple, time travel in a bottle, suds, soldier, Gutterade, barley legal, bitter batter, liquid bread, silly seltzer, brew dog, giggle water, liquid courage, pre-spiked punch, bubbly muscles, hard O'Douls, social lubricant, icanbeatithome, secret ingredient X, tummy buster, brain hammer, elbow benders, daddy's milk, redneck wine, 12 oz. curl, antidote, hello-goodbye, potent potable, chugger's delight, liquid wrecking ball, hops scotch, un-water."
Old 08-03-2014 | 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Since the number of flights is about 2.5 flights a day they have lacked to be in compliance it almost certainly would have to be handled under the grievance process. What we ask for in return is the issue. I don't think there is a real way to figure out damages on a individual basis. I would like to see us ask for a raise equal to the lost salary and a penalty of say 3% on top of that for all pilots to insure future compliance by the company. Probably be about a 3.25% raise.
I would also like to see the arbitrator attach a higher penalty via a additional raise if they do not come into compliance in the next 36 month cycle.
Note: not sure if the above is within the arbitration rules but I hope so.
Originally Posted by Oberon
I like the idea of staffing for the flying whether or not the flights are flown. That fixes the problem going forward. The past infractions can be monetized since you can't retroactively staff.

I think this is achievable in the negotiation/grievance process. Carl mentioned ending the JV but I doubt an arbitrator would force the company to stop commerce. The punishment doesn't fit the crime and it doesn't even really help Delta pilots.
It's my understanding that while an arbitrator could certainly rule for damages in almost anyway they see fit, they tend to avoid "coming down with the throw hammer" on one side or the other as a matter a self preservation. Ultimately the arbitrators on the standing list used for the Delta Pilot's System Board of Adjustment (11 neutrals total) are selected by both parties. If an arbitrator is viewed as going off the reservation by one side or the other, they could find themselves either no longer on the list or consistently one of the first ones struck from the list when choosing a neutral for a specific case. If you don't get selected, you're not getting paid. Granted, these same arbitrators are used at virtually every airline and Delta is certainly not the only source of income by any stretch, but the logic still applies.

For the record, I much prefer the throw hammer with the JV issue at hand.
Old 08-03-2014 | 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Man I hear you GG. I fly a lot on us and other carriers. Buzzpat is right about American's product...it sucks. After our merger, Delta had the worst product out there. If I absolutely needed to be at a meeting, I avoided Delta at all costs. Now I fly on us almost exclusively because it's the best product of any US airline. But the one thing that drives me crazy is the sheer amount and length of PA's at Delta. It is so distracting that most do their best to tune them out. I wish we could improve on that.

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Preach it brother Carl!! I couldn't agree more. The length of the announcements drives me bonkers. You tell the FAs it'll be a short taxi, but sure enough, you're number 1 and that PA has just gotten to the part about the life vests.
Old 08-03-2014 | 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
This, this, this!

I know it's difficult to believe, because we all want to believe our national union actually wants the best for us. They want what's best for ALPA and that lays directly at the feet of Mr. Moak. Right now everyone assumes Delta will vote unanimously for Moak again. Let your reps know that you don't support Moak if that's what you think. We'll have plenty of reps that will vote for Moak regardless. We need more reps to stand up against the little dictator.

Carl
According to the last paragraph of Moak's statement on page 5 of the July 2014 Air Line Pilot magazine, "As I'm sure you've heard, I've made the decision to end my presidential term at the close of this cycle." I take that to mean he's not going to run, but it's not like we haven't all heard that line before.
Old 08-03-2014 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
No no no, you from Cali, you should bring them this.
Love me some Pliny!!
Old 08-03-2014 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Hillbilly
Preach it brother Carl!! I couldn't agree more. The length of the announcements drives me bonkers. You tell the FAs it'll be a short taxi, but sure enough, you're number 1 and that PA has just gotten to the part about the life vests.
Alright, since I'm on a rant roll...I'm on my way out west on Delta and they won't stop playing that boarding music from John Legend singing "All of me". I swear if I hear that whiney song one more time:





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