badflaps

Anybody watching Little League? Man these kids can play ball.

flyallnite

Being essentially forced to play on multiple teams every day of your childhood life will make you that good. I feel sorry for them, don't see many smiles.

Check Essential

So you buy the "accidental mixing of web traffic" defense?

People going to the DPA website got randomly directed to a Delta pilot's website that just happened to have anti-DPA propaganda on it?

C'mon man.

If ALPA had nothing to do with this, they should say so.
But don't insult our intelligence. Telling a lie about how it happened makes their denial of involvement look like a lie also.

Alan Shore

They have done so in the various True Headings that have come out on the subject.

Check Essential

Not if you know who did it.
You just ask to be removed as a defendant.
Motion granted.

ALPA didn't do that. They're still in court even after finally giving up that they know who was responsible. Its all very suspicious.

I don't really care about any of the DPA/ALPA skirmishing.
I just hope ALPA's crack lawyers aren't setting us up for another huge payout of my dues money. I'm getting sick of that happening over and over.

Mem9guy

By putting a number now on 2015 profit sharing they are treating it as a known quantity.

All I am saying is that we should be comparing apples to apples with the contracts of our peers. I think we should be looking at each part of what makes up our w2 earnings and QOL as it compares to our peers, hourly rates, work rules, retirement, medical, and other bonuses. I felt that the last section of the contract comparison used profit shareing to inflate our book rates without giving the same treatment to the rates of our peer.

gzsg

Alan

If ALPA is bottom up as you contend, why is Heidi the only presidential candidate to write to the line pilots?

Can any rep vote for Canoll or Heppner in good conscious with zero of the pilots they represent knowing they are running?

These 2 arrogant, egotistical men think we are not worth the effort.

Disgusting same old stuff.

Jerry

Bucking Bar

An appropriate response would have been a motion to quash. ALPA has an exposure, but it is not to the DPA. ALPA might be exposed to the member that they will be (if DPA's reports are correct) be forced to identify.

ALPA probably had no duty to defend a member for what amounted to a very small prank which was done on that person's own time and which was not directed by ALPA itself. ALPA had the right instinct, to defend a member from a mean-spirited cabal of knuckleheads taking up collections for the mere satisfaction of seeing another pilot's head on a stick. But, now ALPA is involved in something it should never have been involved in.

I am wondering when we stop tolerating some Delta pilots taking up collections to sue other Delta pilots with no damages and no clear goal other than harassment. And if this lawsuit is really about the DPA's rights to a vote, then why have we not granted the DPA leadership's wish to leave ALPA by processing a membership resolution to boot the whole lot of them? I will be happy to vote in favor of expulsion and when they seek resolution, they are welcome to come back in with my support. But, as long as their goal is to destroy ALPA and harm ALPA members it is my impulse that they do not deserve the privilege of membership.

I would prefer the DPA guys get their heads straight and join the rest of the Delta pilots and I'll be the first to serve cake and ice cream if they want to participate, but if they just want to cause trouble for other Delta pilots, then let them do so from outside the circle.

index

Your usual poor grammar notwithstanding, and to the extent I can decipher your ill-informed statement, ALPA has NOT been sued (at least not yet ).

But yet our dues dollars have been wasted to stonewall, obfuscate, spin, and protect the identity of a the person whose "private writings and thoughts of a personal nature"...just happened to, out of pure blind luck and happenstance, found themselves "mapping to a domain name owned and controlled by DPA."

What were those "private writings and thoughts of a personal nature," sailing? Hmmmmmm????

The fact that ALPA national attorneys helped draft the "ALPA was not involved in any manner..." statement and the general, 'golly, gee whiz, I don't know how my "private writings and thoughts of a personal nature" just coincidentally showed up on DPA's website is so far fetched, so out of the realm of possibility, that only a blind ALPA loyalist could read this nonsense and come to the conclusion that this was much to do about nothing. Have you even read the letter, sailing?

If ALPA had nothing to do with this, why are their attorneys involved? Why did Mr. Private Writings not hire his OWN attorney, sailing? How does hacking a website, either accidentally or intentionally, have anything to do with being a pilot for DAL? Since when did ALPA start providing representation for extra-employment related issues?

Juries and judges never find someone "innocent." In the criminal system, you're either found guilty or not guilty. This case (so far) is only a civil case. Civil juries answer questions posed to them in the form of a charge from the judge. For the most part, they only answer yes or no as to whether or not the plaintiff (of defendant as the case may be) proved the elements to their case.

And by the way, the guilty and culpable hire attorneys to defend themselves too. It's their constitutional right.

index

And I wonder why you tolerate and defend an illegal act against a fellow pilot when there was no clear goal other than harassment.