Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
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Of course I am, but it's been a long time since ALPA has even remotely represented me. And I'm not alone in thinking that.
You advocated in an earlier post that members of DPA should be expelled and that they don't "deserve the privilege of membership." Way to build that "unity" Bar. "Unity" is merely a false rallying cry to fall in line with whatever the chairman says.
While it may be your "club" it's not mine. It's supposed to be a union.
You advocated in an earlier post that members of DPA should be expelled and that they don't "deserve the privilege of membership." Way to build that "unity" Bar. "Unity" is merely a false rallying cry to fall in line with whatever the chairman says.
While it may be your "club" it's not mine. It's supposed to be a union.
We can not enjoy the unity of brothers who do not wish to be ALPA members. When they step over the line of seeking to harm ALPA and harm other ALPA members, then we have a duty to protect our association and members. It is not about retribution, not at all. We always seek the restoration of members, but, it is ridiculous to have a member who is actively seeking the decertification of the association and trying to create liabilities for which the association and it's membership will be asked to pay.
Those who have left and those who have been expelled have generally wanted back in and been much better members afterwards. I have yet to vote on a membership resolution, except to welcome members back into our union. That member then went on to be a very productive volunteer who helped a lot of other pilots.
If it turns out to be just joe pilot, that's one thing, if it turns out to be an administration official, a rep, a committee member, a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STORY.
There is no "acting completely on your own" at that level. It's an institutional problem at that point. ALPA acts through its officials and appointees.
So you buy the "accidental mixing of web traffic" defense?
People going to the DPA website got randomly directed to a Delta pilot's website that just happened to have anti-DPA propaganda on it?
C'mon man.
If ALPA had nothing to do with this, they should say so.
But don't insult our intelligence. Telling a lie about how it happened makes their denial of involvement look like a lie also.
People going to the DPA website got randomly directed to a Delta pilot's website that just happened to have anti-DPA propaganda on it?
C'mon man.
If ALPA had nothing to do with this, they should say so.
But don't insult our intelligence. Telling a lie about how it happened makes their denial of involvement look like a lie also.
Well said Essential. You really have to jump through quite a few hoops to believe the "explanation" that's been put out.
In fact, believing the tale that's been told requires a lot of faith, while ignoring a lot of facts that just don't make any sense whatsoever.
Okay, fair enough. Thanks for your honesty.
You said that the letter is scripted and used an odd choice of words. I agree.
Would it matter to you if those "private writings and thoughts of a personal nature" actually WERE the anti-DPA information that was published on DPA's website?
And would it matter to you (and only time will tell if this is the case), if Mr. Private Writings turns out to be an ALPA insider?
Would either of those change your opinion as to how high this thing stinks?
You said that the letter is scripted and used an odd choice of words. I agree.
Would it matter to you if those "private writings and thoughts of a personal nature" actually WERE the anti-DPA information that was published on DPA's website?
And would it matter to you (and only time will tell if this is the case), if Mr. Private Writings turns out to be an ALPA insider?
Would either of those change your opinion as to how high this thing stinks?
1. I'd be surprised if they weren't anti-DPA writings. The content doesn't change whether there was criminal hacking or not.
2. Insider or not, if there was criminal hacking they were wrong to do that. If there wasn't criminal hacking it is irrelevant.
3. No.
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If this indeed was the content, then I believe that fact would be very relevant as to intent.
What potentially makes this a big deal is if this was done by an ALPA insider, i.e. an elected or appointed official. Big difference if it was just a disgruntled line pilot versus a union "leader." And the fact that ALPA attorneys have worked so hard to prevent his identity from being known says to me that it IS a high level ALPA operative. Time will tell.
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Okay, fair enough. Thanks for your honesty.
You said that the letter is scripted and used an odd choice of words. I agree.
Would it matter to you if those "private writings and thoughts of a personal nature" actually WERE the anti-DPA information that was published on DPA's website?
And would it matter to you (and only time will tell if this is the case), if Mr. Private Writings turns out to be an ALPA insider?
Would either of those change your opinion as to how high this thing stinks?
You said that the letter is scripted and used an odd choice of words. I agree.
Would it matter to you if those "private writings and thoughts of a personal nature" actually WERE the anti-DPA information that was published on DPA's website?
And would it matter to you (and only time will tell if this is the case), if Mr. Private Writings turns out to be an ALPA insider?
Would either of those change your opinion as to how high this thing stinks?
Stop with your complete disregard for the truth.
This pilot hacked the DPA website and posted negative communication.
He got caught immediately.
He called Tim Caplinger 3 separate times and offered him money to let it go.
Tim asked him to simply admit in writing what he did and who helped him and he would forgive and forget.
The pilot refused. Why? IMO it was because it would have made DALPA look bad, but that is only my opinion.
Honor is something no man can give you and something no man can take away.
Defending this action and pretending it was an accident is dishonorable and disgusting. You insult all of us with your comments.
THE GLOVE DOESN'T FIT!!!!!!!
Jerry
The whole key to this kerfuffle is the identity of the hacker.
Is he now or has he ever been a "DALPA guy"?
If the answer is yes --- heads need to roll.
Is he now or has he ever been a "DALPA guy"?
If the answer is yes --- heads need to roll.
This pilot hacked the DPA website and posted negative communication.
He got caught immediately.
He called Tim Caplinger 3 separate times and offered him money to let it go.
Tim asked him to simply admit in writing what he did and who helped him and he would forgive and forget.
The pilot refused.
He got caught immediately.
He called Tim Caplinger 3 separate times and offered him money to let it go.
Tim asked him to simply admit in writing what he did and who helped him and he would forgive and forget.
The pilot refused.
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