Alan Shore

You get paid for the greater of that entire trip or any OE trip you fly that conflicts with it. The reason you're not yet seeing any pay for the trip is that they're waiting for you to complete OE, at which point they'll finish up the accounting.

Watch it carefully, though. They got mine wrong last year, costing me many many hours. It took ALPA's intervention to restore those hours.

80ktsClamp

The end of the previous month or at the end of the month that you convert? Thanks, Alan.

Alan Shore

No idea (because I didn't read it), and I don't care. Moak does not control my reps, the direction they give to the NC, nor the vote that they will cast for the eventual Section 6 TA.

Alan Shore

The end of the month in which you convert. Assuming that you convert to your new position on August 31, your September 30 paycheck will be for 1/2 of the reserve guarantee in your new category at that new category's pay rate.

80ktsClamp

The guy that started the recall thread is part of our little Facebook group. He had a chance to talk to Moak in the past couple days, and he completely changed his mind and retracted his feelings. Apparently it was a 45 minute long interview, and all the reporter lifted was those snippets. Shocker than a reporter would totally jack something up....

80ktsClamp

Perfect, thanks!

Purple Drank

Me, too. Now where are they?

What is your take on Moak's Bloomberg interview? I'd hardly say his remarks qualify as "working to improve our contract."

Purple Drank

My spidey sense tells me Moak is far too savvy a player to get rolled like that. That "misrepresented by a hostile reporter" story just seems like heavily refined (and highly predictable) damage-control spin.

To me, the stuff he said wasn't helpful to us in any context. It doesn't matter if he spent 30 seconds saying it; he should not have said that stuff at all.

Carl Spackler

Fascinating. Now you admit to the goofiness of trying to go after all 5,000 DPA members, but you're still interested in going after the leader. You advocate ALPA going after one guy, yet you decry DPA for going after one guy. As I've always said with you Bar, your outrage is selective and highly partisan.

The member is not trying to "kill" ALPA. The member is using the democratic process to see if Delta pilots can be given an opportunity to vote in a new union. If you think that action will "kill" ALPA, that says more about ALPA than anything else.

Also, ALPA has done nothing to reconcile. ALPA has done nothing but insult and demean. DALPA has funded a "special committee" devoted to destroy the DPA and has called all involved liars. Hardly an attempt at reconciliation Bar. This is why I think Tim is pushing this. You and the Special Committee have called Tim a liar and said he likely hacked his own website due to his incompetence. Evidence is starting to look uncomfortable for ALPA, yet Tim is only demanding that DALPA apologize. DALPA refuses and doubles down on the "liar" tactic with this latest "True Headings".

If I was ALPA's counsel, I would issue an apology and have the hacker issue an apology. It is my belief that would have ended this a long time ago, and would probably still end it today. But being an ALPA insider means never having to say you're sorry. It's still not too late, but my bet is that ALPA will just continue to dig in their heels.

Carl

Carl Spackler

Bar does this from time to time. Too many White Russians in too short of time. He'll realize the clear hypocrisy soon and issue a retraction.

Carl