Jerry,

I agree with Carl. I fully expect, probably before the weekend is over, that Moak will put out a letter saying he was misquoted...that's not what he really said...blah..blah..blah.

It will be more to do about damage control than anything else.

 

[QUOTE=ImTumbleweed;1705654]What manner of penalty other than cash would you suggest?

 

Yes, but the aircraft are already on order.

 

Yeah, and $.05 out of $2.00 is 2.5 percent, which rounds up to...

Anyone?

3 (/3/3/3), the same number thrown out by mgt. So it looks like mgt and ALPA have already aligned expectations pretty closely. Negotiations might go quickly, time value of money and all.

 

I would suggest no penalty.

I'm not interested in penalties.

I'm interested in integrity when it comes to the company. That means Delta "making it right" and keeping the deal that was agreed to over four years ago.

Go ahead, let the company take one more year and and bring our share of flying to the upper end of the compliance window to 51.5% on a three year look-back by March 30, 2015 and we all win.

Cheers
George

 

[QUOTE=Alan Shore;1706258]Alan,

Do you think the JV non-compliance should be included in the 2015 contract?

I think it's a stand alone issue, and should be addressed outside of contract negotiations.

What are your thoughts?

 

The company would take that deal in a heartbeat George...then violate it again by March 30, 2016.

We're being tested by management, and we're failing. This is no different than Obama drawing a "red line" in Syria, then backing down when Assad used chemical weapons anyway. Assad tested Obama to see if he could fight to defend his own words. Obama didn't want to fight and it will be to our lasting detriment.

When a bully wants to fight, delaying the date of the fight doesn't ever stop the fight from happening.

Carl

 

August 2014





Delta may start direct flights to Kenya



Delta Air Lines could become the first airline with direct flights from Kenya to the US according to the African country's transport minister.

"Definitely Delta will be the airline to start, we are working with them and regulators more closely this time around to secure all the requirements," transport minister Michael Kamau said.

Delta put plans for Kenya flights on hold in 2009 after the US government refused to grant US carriers permission due to security concerns.

Delta had drawn up plans to fly from Atlanta to Jomo Kenyatta International Airport in Nairobi via Senegal.

The minister also said Kenya Airways also wants to fly direct to the US.

The carrier is increasing its fleet size and took delivery of its third 787-800 Dreamliner airplane this month with six more on order.

Outgoing Kenya Airways CEO Titus Naikuni had said it would hold off buying more Boeing aircraft until the US government grants the airline permission to operate direct flights.


Friday, August 15, 2014

 

Investors don't care if you are proud, they care if your pay affects profitibility and they care about labor peace. The whole point of the visit to New York was to promote labor peace because Wall St. Values that. Moak seems to think healthy profitable companies will do well in negotiations and is using his position to promote airline health...or at least the part he represents.

I tend to agree with his strategy since it costs absolutely nothing. I don't think the DALPA negotiating committee will go along with whatever the company proposes because the former ALPA President promised Wall St. the pilots wouldn't be a problem. As a matter of fact, I think promoting labor peace is leverage because it matters more to the company than it does to us.

I misunderstood your opposition to Moak talking to investors. I thought you were advocating a hard line stance. It appears you advocate silence. I apologize for the misunderstanding.

 

The disciples are being very quiet. Must be quite the conference call to get their talking points straight.