Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
08-27-2014 | 09:37 AM
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08-27-2014 | 09:39 AM
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Cleaning out the basement for a renovation and came across a bunch of flight manuals. I have Natops T34B, C9B, and C1A (going to keep the T28, A4 & A7 books) along with every Delta manual I ever had (727, 737-300G, 737-800, MD11, 777, 767, 757).
Going to toss them all. If any Delta pilot wants some/all, PM me... catch is you have to come to Newnan to get them.
Going to toss them all. If any Delta pilot wants some/all, PM me... catch is you have to come to Newnan to get them.
08-27-2014 | 09:42 AM
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08-27-2014 | 09:46 AM
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Just to put some reality into the hours worked here are some numbers. The average Delta pilot flew in the 40 to 42 hour a month range from 200o to 2005. Post chapter 11 that jumped to 52 hours or almost 20 percent more. That number has slowly dropped as we incrementally gained improvements. In 2013 the number was 41.9 hours up slightly from 2012.
08-27-2014 | 09:48 AM
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I have seen that percentage and that is bad enough. It's been said on here that Delta is in the business of selling passenger seat miles, and I still wonder what percent of the seat miles for sale are flown by mainline Delta pilots.
08-27-2014 | 09:52 AM
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Just to put some reality into the hours worked here are some numbers. The average Delta pilot flew in the 40 to 42 hour a month range from 200o to 2005. Post chapter 11 that jumped to 52 hours or almost 20 percent more. That number has slowly dropped as we incrementally gained improvements. In 2013 the number was 41.9 hours up slightly from 2012.
08-27-2014 | 09:53 AM
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No high yellow. but in the interest of full disclosure, the first trip was a greenslip so it doesn't show on/change the raw value.
IMO, what really happened is while I was trying to roll the thunder, I got caught by capped x days and stuck with where my off days were thereby losing control of anything after that.
IMO, what really happened is while I was trying to roll the thunder, I got caught by capped x days and stuck with where my off days were thereby losing control of anything after that.
08-27-2014 | 09:55 AM
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08-27-2014 | 10:00 AM
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Offsetting a concession doesn't negate the fact they we still gave a concession. Despite what many on this board say or justify, many of us bottom 15%ers haven't seen much movement despite the retirements and growth.
How is it that we have 500-600 new captains in the last year and I've moved up in the 88B cat about 15 numbers, I just recently broke the 50% in category barrier.
I'm not anti ALPA, but it gets old hearing Sailing, Alfa etc tell us how good things are as we work more than we did post BK! I can't dispute the barrage of data that comes from the usual suspects, I just know that the message that you guys are delivering is far different than the reality that many of us are living.
The company is making huge profits (just as they predicted they would) and we got a 3% pay raise on Jan. 1. Good thing we didn't leave any money on the table?
How is it that we have 500-600 new captains in the last year and I've moved up in the 88B cat about 15 numbers, I just recently broke the 50% in category barrier.
I'm not anti ALPA, but it gets old hearing Sailing, Alfa etc tell us how good things are as we work more than we did post BK! I can't dispute the barrage of data that comes from the usual suspects, I just know that the message that you guys are delivering is far different than the reality that many of us are living.
The company is making huge profits (just as they predicted they would) and we got a 3% pay raise on Jan. 1. Good thing we didn't leave any money on the table?
FB,
The stagnation has been very, very frustrating for most of us. Hopefully we will all start moving up - I am at 15 years and still a NB FO (by choice) and would love for this movement to continue.
Yes Sailing and Alfa often take a very positive look at things but that is OK. They have been here longer than most of us and have a lot more history to draw from.
I am just as frustrated when I see guys who have been 6 or 7 years complain how unfair the reserve system is. Reserve used to be 100% seniority weighted. Then seniority was totally removed, and now it is partially weighted - in my opinion a very good compromise system that could still use some fine tuning (SC assignments in particular).
My perspective is not unique - many 1999 and 2000 hires saw a couple of great years, followed by furlough, BK, and the slow crawl back.
I don't always agree with the guys you refer to - Sailing, Alfa, etc, but I do appreciate that they have seen everything we have seen at DAL plus one or two more up and down cycles and so they often have the best perspective on many issues.
Scoop
08-27-2014 | 10:13 AM
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From: Light Chop
Scoop, don't let your frustration with new hires keep you from missing the points being made.
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