Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
08-12-2014 | 12:41 PM
Wind the clock beoch
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Newbie scheduling questions:
Say I'm scheduled for a block of reserve on Saturday - Monday.
There's a 3-day trip in open time Friday-Sun.
1) Do I submit a GS, or a GSWC, since the trip goes into a period of reserve?
2) If awarded the trip, how do I put in my preference for which day to take off my current reserve schedule?
Thanks in advance from a steam-driven mind in a digital world.
Say I'm scheduled for a block of reserve on Saturday - Monday.
There's a 3-day trip in open time Friday-Sun.
1) Do I submit a GS, or a GSWC, since the trip goes into a period of reserve?
2) If awarded the trip, how do I put in my preference for which day to take off my current reserve schedule?
Thanks in advance from a steam-driven mind in a digital world.
To answer your first question, you would put in a GS for the situation you described. A GSWC is only when the trip you pick up "conflicts" with one you already have on your schedule.
For your second question, I'm not sure what you me by "which day to take off of [your] current schedule" means. If you mean where are your payback days going to be put, you don't have a say in that matter--- IF they can give you back the payback days in the current bid period, that's where they're going to go, beginning immediately after the 9 hour partial x-day you receive upon release from your rotation. (Reference Section 23.S.11)
If they can't give you the PB days in the current bid period then they will show up on your timecard (at the bottom) as "Number Payback Days Available For Use."
23.S. 11. says "A reserve pilot who flies on an X-day due to an IA, GS, or reroute will be given nine hours free of duty upon his release at the completion of his rotation.
a. His X-day(s) will begin immediately following such nine-hour period and will continue until he has received a period of 24 hours free of duty for each interrupted and remaining X-day in his scheduled X-day block.
b. If the remaining days in the bid period are insufficient to contain the X-day(s), the pilot will be granted an additional day(s) off under Section 23 S. 16.
Good luck!
08-12-2014 | 12:42 PM
At home on the maddog!
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From: Retired (mandatory age 65)
Endeavor attrition/ETD update.
We've lost 26 pilots so far in August. The attrition rate has almost doubled.
Of the 14 EtD hires, only 4 showed up to class. The kicker here is that EtD pilots must be qualified for Delta, so the people who don't show up to 9E, are the ones getting hired at other major airlines. Why management would think this is a good idea, is beyond me.
We've lost 26 pilots so far in August. The attrition rate has almost doubled.
Of the 14 EtD hires, only 4 showed up to class. The kicker here is that EtD pilots must be qualified for Delta, so the people who don't show up to 9E, are the ones getting hired at other major airlines. Why management would think this is a good idea, is beyond me.
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08-12-2014 | 12:45 PM
Gets Weekends Off
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Because they are very concerned about where they're going to find pilots in a couple of years from now. And they are determined to find some way other than the obvious solution of restoring pay... especially since they think our pilots are pretty content with slightly better than bankruptcy level compensation. (Thank you, ALPA. )
From your lips to God's ears!
)From your lips to God's ears!
In any case, here is an honest question. How much negotiating capital should we expend to address a scope issue that it seems the market itself is at least partially fixing? I certainly don't claim to have the answer.
08-12-2014 | 01:00 PM
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How do we double quote a message...i.e. I would like to both quote your reply and the original poster's quote WITHOUT going into his original post, which might be a few pages back.
In any case, here is an honest question. How much negotiating capital should we expend to address a scope issue that it seems the market itself is at least partially fixing? I certainly don't claim to have the answer.
In any case, here is an honest question. How much negotiating capital should we expend to address a scope issue that it seems the market itself is at least partially fixing? I certainly don't claim to have the answer.
I think our focus should be on restoring our pay. They've already shot themselves in the foot by making the profession so unattractive to newcomers that their precious outsourcing model is collapsing for lack of pilots.
Restore our pay and THAT takes care of a whole host of problems.
No more trouble attracting enough quality entrants into this profession. No more being paid as if we're still about to go into bankruptcy. Retirement is boosted significantly (remember, 15% of a much bigger number is a much bigger number). And QOL is improved as many of us no longer need to work a whole bunch of extra days for more $$$.
When will DALPA declare restoration as our objective? What are they waiting for?
08-12-2014 | 01:02 PM
The Brown Dot +1
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Newbie scheduling questions:
Say I'm scheduled for a block of reserve on Saturday - Monday.
There's a 3-day trip in open time Friday-Sun.
1) Do I submit a GS, or a GSWC, since the trip goes into a period of reserve?
2) If awarded the trip, how do I put in my preference for which day to take off my current reserve schedule?
Thanks in advance from a steam-driven mind in a digital world.
Say I'm scheduled for a block of reserve on Saturday - Monday.
There's a 3-day trip in open time Friday-Sun.
1) Do I submit a GS, or a GSWC, since the trip goes into a period of reserve?
2) If awarded the trip, how do I put in my preference for which day to take off my current reserve schedule?
Thanks in advance from a steam-driven mind in a digital world.
08-12-2014 | 01:03 PM
The Brown Dot +1
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From: 777B
Where are the schedules?
08-12-2014 | 01:19 PM
Gets Weekends Off
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How do we double quote a message...i.e. I would like to both quote your reply and the original poster's quote WITHOUT going into his original post, which might be a few pages back.
In any case, here is an honest question. How much negotiating capital should we expend to address a scope issue that it seems the market itself is at least partially fixing? I certainly don't claim to have the answer.
In any case, here is an honest question. How much negotiating capital should we expend to address a scope issue that it seems the market itself is at least partially fixing? I certainly don't claim to have the answer.
08-12-2014 | 01:37 PM
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From: 747-400 Captain
My two cents, and would defer to Bucking Bar for details on exactly what to pull out of section 1.
Carl
08-12-2014 | 02:49 PM
Can't abide NAI
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
SkyWest and Republic Holdings both have 90 to 160 seat jets on order. Who are they going to fly for?
So, if we have a downturn and are faced with concessionary bargaining ... .
We should chose on the basis of what is right. Should Delta pilots perform Delta flying, or should we become one of a large number of vendors who compete against each other for flying awards?
Jet Blue is cheaper than Delta. As a "major" it is not having recruitment problems. Do you think SkyWest, if they were paying JetBlue rates plus 25% would have a hard time recruiting pilots for 130 seat jets?
08-12-2014 | 02:56 PM
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