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tsquare 08-14-2014 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by iceman49 (Post 1705272)
Yeah the crew activity statement is back!


It looks like nothing more than a format change from the pay statement. What am I missing?

conquestdz 08-14-2014 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by cni187 (Post 1705290)
I bet we see all the shuttles move to the 717. The west coast 175's from LA-SF-LA and SEA-SF-SEA are always late and/or canceling. I bet we still see the 717s on the left coast if the regionals can't find people. Mainline needs the feed to Sea and LA for the Intl stuff.

From an insider prospective on the LAX shuttle flying, the schedule is custom made to be intolerant of any delay. The flights are underblocked and scheduled with 30 minute turns all day. I see very few, if any flights cancel for no pilots unless they time out, which does occasionally happen with all of the SFO ground delay programs. There are so few gates in LAX that even when we know in advance of a ground delay, we have to push and start racking up block time. Throw in any mechanical or weather issues and it just cascades through the rest of the day. Everything is just spread too thin in LAX...gates, block times, aircraft utilization, etc.

Flamer 08-14-2014 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by NERD (Post 1705211)
You are shooting way too low. It should be GS pay until back on original rotation. In over 20 years of airline flying, I have never been rerouted as much as I have since the merger. It reminds me of my pt135 on demand charter days. Every time you land, they have a new trip for you. I'll give them a break as far as last Friday or even the ice events, but when there is not a cloud within 2000 NM of Atlanta and another crew is running 20 minutes late and they reroute you that is total BS.

It depends how much you want to dis-incentivize reroutes. Do you want to never get a reroute, or do you want a little extra cash for your troubles? GS pay might make them go away all together? SWA has some kind of a 1.5 pay system where they throw a little cash around and everyone seems happy?

Scoop 08-14-2014 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1705330)
As much as it pains me to say it, this doesn't prove the 717 base would come to NYC, so this gives me no particular comfort This was known well before Planning mused about having only one base left for the 717.

The silver lining may be that they can definitely do four bases with 88 airplanes. Just because they're saying they will only do three now, if the distribution of flying makes it worthwhile, they'll do it... in a New York minute.

Agree 100%. For years we had a stand alone MD90 base with only 16 aircraft. With 88 717s that would be 22 per domicile with 4 a Pilot bases.

Scoop :)

ExAF 08-14-2014 10:36 AM

At least some of the B schedules are available via the back door!

FlyingDutchman 08-14-2014 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1705357)
Well... it should result in a couple more 767s to CDG.. but I don't know yet.

T you're absolutely right it should, but somehow it hasn't happened and I'm not holding breath it ever will . Last time I checked AF was flying 5 of the 6 flights out of JFK and all with BIG stuff. The JV agreement is a joke and it's costing us (DL pilots) big time.:mad:

FmrFreightDog 08-14-2014 11:10 AM

Item 1. LOA 14-03; Short Call: The Company and the Association reached a tentative agreement this week on LOA 14-03. This LOA modifies the requirement for contact and acknowledgement of an assignment for the first two hours if placed on Short Call after a hard no-fly day to read:

Exception: A pilot who is converted to short call on his first on-call day following a non-fly day will not be required to be available for contact during the first two hours of his short call period as follows …

This agreement removes the restriction on a pilot to exercise this provision if a short call is placed on his schedule less than nine hours prior to the start of an on-call day. The net effect is that all pilots converted to short call on their first fly day, after a hard no-fly day, will be able to use this provision. Previously if a short call was placed on a pilot’s line after 1500 the day prior, he could not exercise this option. This is an improvement to your contract based on the feedback we received from you.


Am I reading this correctly to say that the union has negotiated back a small portion of a large QOL benefit that they gave away during FAR 117 negotiations? Prior to FAR 117 negotiations, the two hour option was available to a reserve on any short call day. I don't mean to sound snarky, but are we really calling this a win? If I'm misinterpreting somehow, my apologies.

iaflyer 08-14-2014 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by AirCav (Post 1705348)
Air France-KLM to begin seasonal, nonstop service to Miami with Airbus A380


How's that codeshare thingy working out for Delta pilots?

Right now they have a 777 flying the route, I'm assuming it's daily but I don't really know. So really it's just an upgauge.

We have protections! :rolleyes: Really, we do. (that aren't seeming to work very well)

scambo1 08-14-2014 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog (Post 1705396)
Item 1. LOA 14-03; Short Call: The Company and the Association reached a tentative agreement this week on LOA 14-03. This LOA modifies the requirement for contact and acknowledgement of an assignment for the first two hours if placed on Short Call after a hard no-fly day to read:

Exception: A pilot who is converted to short call on his first on-call day following a non-fly day will not be required to be available for contact during the first two hours of his short call period as follows …

This agreement removes the restriction on a pilot to exercise this provision if a short call is placed on his schedule less than nine hours prior to the start of an on-call day. The net effect is that all pilots converted to short call on their first fly day, after a hard no-fly day, will be able to use this provision. Previously if a short call was placed on a pilot’s line after 1500 the day prior, he could not exercise this option. This is an improvement to your contract based on the feedback we received from you.


Am I reading this correctly to say that the union has negotiated back a small portion of a large QOL benefit that they gave away during FAR 117 negotiations? Prior to FAR 117 negotiations, the two hour option was available to a reserve on any short call day. I don't mean to sound snarky, but are we really calling this a win? If I'm misinterpreting somehow, my apologies.

IMO, the 2 hr commute option never went away...in reality...if you had Gogo internet and were monitoring deltanet. The language went away, IMO due to an oversight. Now, the language is back, but ONLY for your first shortcall after your X day.

Big win, no. Codified, yes. Big change, no.

scambo1 08-14-2014 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 1705436)
Right now they have a 777 flying the route, I'm assuming it's daily but I don't really know. So really it's just an upgauge.

We have protections! :rolleyes: Really, we do. (that aren't seeming to work very well)

Don't fool yourself. We don't have protections.


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