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sailingfun 08-14-2014 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog (Post 1705396)
Item 1. LOA 14-03; Short Call: The Company and the Association reached a tentative agreement this week on LOA 14-03. This LOA modifies the requirement for contact and acknowledgement of an assignment for the first two hours if placed on Short Call after a hard no-fly day to read:

Exception: A pilot who is converted to short call on his first on-call day following a non-fly day will not be required to be available for contact during the first two hours of his short call period as follows …

This agreement removes the restriction on a pilot to exercise this provision if a short call is placed on his schedule less than nine hours prior to the start of an on-call day. The net effect is that all pilots converted to short call on their first fly day, after a hard no-fly day, will be able to use this provision. Previously if a short call was placed on a pilot’s line after 1500 the day prior, he could not exercise this option. This is an improvement to your contract based on the feedback we received from you.


Am I reading this correctly to say that the union has negotiated back a small portion of a large QOL benefit that they gave away during FAR 117 negotiations? Prior to FAR 117 negotiations, the two hour option was available to a reserve on any short call day. I don't mean to sound snarky, but are we really calling this a win? If I'm misinterpreting somehow, my apologies.


Yes, you do have a miss understanding. In the old contract you could be put on short call with 10 hours notice. The new contract requires 12 hours notice so the 2 hours is built in.

New:
AA. Amend Section 23. S. 5. c. and d. and add Exception (new) to read: 16 17 c. Reserved. 18 d. can be converted to short call no earlier than 12 hours from the first attempted 19 contact by Crew Scheduling and will be released from duty during the 12 hours 20 immediately preceding the start of his short call period.

Old:
be converted to short call no earlier than ten hours from the first attempted 14 contact by Crew Scheduling and will be released from duty during the ten hours 15 immediately preceding the start of his short call period.

sailingfun 08-14-2014 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1705437)
IMO, the 2 hr commute option never went away...in reality...if you had Gogo internet and were monitoring deltanet. The language went away, IMO due to an oversight. Now, the language is back, but ONLY for your first shortcall after your X day.

Big win, no. Codified, yes. Big change, no.

It was never a change. They built the 2 hours into the notification. It's 12 hours now not 10. If you rely on go go I wish you luck. I get it to work about half the time.

Going2Baja 08-14-2014 01:11 PM

So Cal B has the back door open. Uh oh - That doesn't sound right.

Baja.

Dirtdiver 08-14-2014 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by Going2Baja (Post 1705448)
So Cal B has the back door open. Uh oh - That doesn't sound right.

Baja.

Nah, that sounds about right

Oberon 08-14-2014 01:48 PM

What does a rotation in open time that starts with a letter mean (i.e. B352)? I saw one I really wanted but it was denied due to "bid for rotation that doesn't exist" (paraphrasing). I think I got my wife's hopes up over something I don't I understand.

sailingfun 08-14-2014 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1705464)
What does a rotation in open time that starts with a letter mean (i.e. B352)? I saw one I really wanted but it was denied due to "bid for rotation that doesn't exist" (paraphrasing). I think I got my wife's hopes up over something I don't I understand.

B means a trip to Europe, L is Latin America, R Africa ect..

Oberon 08-14-2014 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1705465)
B means a trip to Europe, L is Latin America, R Africa ect..

That makes sense. Why would a white slip be denied because a pairing doesn't exist? Is it possible the trip was pulled for training but showed up in open time for a short period?

sailingfun 08-14-2014 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1705468)
That makes sense. Why would a white slip be denied because a pairing doesn't exist? Is it possible the trip was pulled for training but showed up in open time for a short period?

Give us a hint and we can look, date, base and category.

CheapTrick 08-14-2014 02:10 PM

717 LGA shuttle flying has been on the 717 future city list for 6 months. The plan was for DTW to fly the majority of the trips just like the DTW 320 base did previously. This announcement doesn't seem to preclude a West Coast at all. I don't think anyone knows until marketing decides. My money would be on NYC though.

Oberon 08-14-2014 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1705470)
Give us a hint and we can look, date, base and category.

8/26, DTW, 7ER, LHR three day, B529. How do you look up individual pairings in iCrew?

Clarification: the message is "REQUESTED ADD ROTATION NOT IN OPEN TIME".


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