I doubt that is how it would go down. Something tells me that the socialists wouldn't allow someone in the top 10% of all wage earners (5%???) like us to stop working and to go onto the exchanges and pay the same as octomom. I just don't see that happening at all.

I'm not trying to complain, I'm just saying the company has figured out how to make the trip without triggering 430 or 515. It's better than a sharp stick in the eye, and it certainly helps with they try to build a 13 hour 3 day, I'm just not buying all the chest thumping about it. Min day is the way to go, average day is what we have.

I'm not going to post the trip but for example, day one is 8:30 block, day 2 is 31 hours off in random city, day three is 7:41. Day one and three are NIGHTMARE's and you get a day off away from home with ZERO compensation for it. pay's 16:11, regardless of 430 or 515.

If that were a 2 day trip that paid 16:11, I would be much more excited about it.

There are absolutely plans available on the exchanges that will exclude certain hospitals. The talking points of that article are that if you choose the cheapest plan on the exchange you will have limited options. It doesn't say a thing about what you get if you choose an expensive option. A very one sided article really.

It is that way right now with insurance provided through your employer. If you choose the lowest deductible plans in most employer sponsored plans you will find that not all hospitals may accept the insurance. UHC at Delta is good in that regard and most hospitals accept UHC. Not all employers are that way. If you have access to UHC plans on the exchange in your state, you will have access to the same hospitals that you do in your Delta sponsored plan. If you want to find the cheapest plan available to you via the exchange, you will find limited options.

I don't like the way the affordable care act was pushed on us any more than the next guy, but the reality of the situation is that it is now law and the chances of it being repealed are basically nil. All of us will purchase healthcare on the exchanges within 5 years so you better have it figured out. Right now in my state if Delta would give me $700 per month to buy health insurance from an exchange, I would be no worse off going with an HSA option available via the exchange.

You can go on right now and buy insurance regardless of your income. You get "discounts" based on your income. I could quit Delta right now and go buy insurance that is comparable to what Delta offers for 2015. I put in $200,000 as my annual income and could purchase a plan almost identical to the Silver HSA option available in 2015 for $715 per month. I haven't looked into the income levels and where the discounts kick in, but $715 per month is a lot cheaper than COBRA through Delta.

Yep, but just realize that if it were a 2 day that paid 16:11 someone would be on here complaining about it the next day. :eek:

Scoop

How is parking the 747s relevant to your point?

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The point is they know what the pilot costs will be next year.

They always know what pilot costs are going to be within a certain parameter. We have a contract. That's what contracts do... spell out costs. They biggest way they reduce overall costs is by reducing debt. The second is by fleet rationalization. That one is a dynamic process. In this cycle of airline growth, it is all about frequency... again, hence smaller fleets with longer legs...

And for those of you that back the bigger pays more scheme, how do you put a dollar figure on efficiency?

For sure they would.

my beef is with 117 to be honest, not really contract stuff.

I have never been so beat up, but now with 117--> being beat up is the norm..

Call your rep. Document pairings. Remember, its the FAAs doing not ALPA. In fact, I called DALPA scheduling and C. told me that he is receiving many calls from fatigued pilots. He told me to write my rep.

8+ hour domestic days are Brutal. I also think we need to have 30-32 days off AT HOME per 7 days. Layovers do not constitute rest to me. On the other hand, I look at the M88 lines and all I see are 4 leg days followed by 10-13 hour layos, ***!?

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