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Originally Posted by index
(Post 1707225)
And would it matter to you (and only time will tell if this is the case), if Mr. Private Writings turns out to be an ALPA insider?
Would either of those change your opinion as to how high this thing stinks?
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1707233)
How does that matter, if the guy (gal, or it) was acting completely on their own?
If it turns out to be just joe pilot, that's one thing, if it turns out to be an administration official, a rep, a committee member, a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STORY. There is no "acting completely on your own" at that level. It's an institutional problem at that point. ALPA acts through its officials and appointees. |
Originally Posted by Check Essential
(Post 1707164)
So you buy the "accidental mixing of web traffic" defense?
People going to the DPA website got randomly directed to a Delta pilot's website that just happened to have anti-DPA propaganda on it? C'mon man. If ALPA had nothing to do with this, they should say so. But don't insult our intelligence. Telling a lie about how it happened makes their denial of involvement look like a lie also. Well said Essential. You really have to jump through quite a few hoops to believe the "explanation" that's been put out. In fact, believing the tale that's been told requires a lot of faith, while ignoring a lot of facts that just don't make any sense whatsoever. |
Originally Posted by scambo1
(Post 1707205)
Our union has lawyers who will protect a pilot from the company. Do those lawyers also protect a pilot from federal prosecution?
Originally Posted by Hillbilly
(Post 1707219)
Yes if it is directly related to his employment. That's irrelevant in this case. They were hit with a subpoena.
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Originally Posted by index
(Post 1707225)
Okay, fair enough. Thanks for your honesty.
You said that the letter is scripted and used an odd choice of words. I agree. Would it matter to you if those "private writings and thoughts of a personal nature" actually WERE the anti-DPA information that was published on DPA's website? And would it matter to you (and only time will tell if this is the case), if Mr. Private Writings turns out to be an ALPA insider? Would either of those change your opinion as to how high this thing stinks? 1. I'd be surprised if they weren't anti-DPA writings. The content doesn't change whether there was criminal hacking or not. 2. Insider or not, if there was criminal hacking they were wrong to do that. If there wasn't criminal hacking it is irrelevant. 3. No. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by Hillbilly
(Post 1707256)
1. I'd be surprised if they weren't anti-DPA writings. The content doesn't change whether there was criminal hacking or not.
If this indeed was the content, then I believe that fact would be very relevant as to intent.
Originally Posted by Hillbilly
(Post 1707256)
2. Insider or not, if there was criminal hacking they were wrong to do that. If there wasn't criminal hacking it is irrelevant.
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Originally Posted by index
(Post 1707225)
Okay, fair enough. Thanks for your honesty.
You said that the letter is scripted and used an odd choice of words. I agree. Would it matter to you if those "private writings and thoughts of a personal nature" actually WERE the anti-DPA information that was published on DPA's website? And would it matter to you (and only time will tell if this is the case), if Mr. Private Writings turns out to be an ALPA insider? Would either of those change your opinion as to how high this thing stinks? Stop with your complete disregard for the truth. This pilot hacked the DPA website and posted negative communication. He got caught immediately. He called Tim Caplinger 3 separate times and offered him money to let it go. Tim asked him to simply admit in writing what he did and who helped him and he would forgive and forget. The pilot refused. Why? IMO it was because it would have made DALPA look bad, but that is only my opinion. Honor is something no man can give you and something no man can take away. Defending this action and pretending it was an accident is dishonorable and disgusting. You insult all of us with your comments. THE GLOVE DOESN'T FIT!!!!!!! Jerry |
The whole key to this kerfuffle is the identity of the hacker.
Is he now or has he ever been a "DALPA guy"? If the answer is yes --- heads need to roll. |
Originally Posted by gzsg
(Post 1707270)
This pilot hacked the DPA website and posted negative communication.
He got caught immediately. He called Tim Caplinger 3 separate times and offered him money to let it go. Tim asked him to simply admit in writing what he did and who helped him and he would forgive and forget. The pilot refused. |
Originally Posted by index
(Post 1707200)
3bil,
O.J. said he was innocent. What's your point? Please try to keep up. |
Originally Posted by Mem9guy
(Post 1707172)
By putting a number now on 2015 profit sharing they are treating it as a known quantity.
The reader (me, in this case) was left to draw his own conclusions as to the likelihood of the estimate and the desirability of placing this amount of my compensation at risk. Hopefully, the survey will give me an opportunity to express my views on that subject. If not, I will let my rep know how I feel on the subject.
Originally Posted by Mem9guy
(Post 1707172)
All I am saying is that we should be comparing apples to apples with the contracts of our peers. I think we should be looking at each part of what makes up our w2 earnings and QOL as it compares to our peers, hourly rates, work rules, retirement, medical, and other bonuses. I felt that the last section of the contract comparison used profit shareing to inflate our book rates without giving the same treatment to the rates of our peer.
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