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80ktsClamp 08-17-2014 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1707348)
The end of the month, as that reflects 1/2 of the reserve guarantee for that month at the pilot's rate of pay.

The end of the previous month or at the end of the month that you convert? Thanks, Alan. :)

Alan Shore 08-17-2014 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1707357)
Alan, how else should one interpret Moak's interview?

No idea (because I didn't read it), and I don't care. Moak does not control my reps, the direction they give to the NC, nor the vote that they will cast for the eventual Section 6 TA.

Alan Shore 08-17-2014 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1707361)
The end of the previous month or at the end of the month that you convert?

The end of the month in which you convert. Assuming that you convert to your new position on August 31, your September 30 paycheck will be for 1/2 of the reserve guarantee in your new category at that new category's pay rate.

80ktsClamp 08-17-2014 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1707357)
Alan, how else should one interpret Moak's interview?

The guy that started the recall thread is part of our little Facebook group. He had a chance to talk to Moak in the past couple days, and he completely changed his mind and retracted his feelings. Apparently it was a 45 minute long interview, and all the reporter lifted was those snippets. Shocker than a reporter would totally jack something up....

80ktsClamp 08-17-2014 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1707363)
The end of the month in which you convert. Assuming that you convert to your new position on August 31, your September 30 paycheck will be for 1/2 of the reserve guarantee in your new category at that new category's pay rate.

Perfect, thanks! :)

Purple Drank 08-17-2014 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1707297)
I support those working to improve our contract.

Me, too. Now where are they?

What is your take on Moak's Bloomberg interview? I'd hardly say his remarks qualify as "working to improve our contract."

Purple Drank 08-17-2014 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1707365)
The guy that started the recall thread is part of our little Facebook group. He had a chance to talk to Moak in the past couple days, and he completely changed his mind and retracted his feelings. Apparently it was a 45 minute long interview, and all the reporter lifted was those snippets. Shocker than a reporter would totally jack something up....

My spidey sense tells me Moak is far too savvy a player to get rolled like that. That "misrepresented by a hostile reporter" story just seems like heavily refined (and highly predictable) damage-control spin.

To me, the stuff he said wasn't helpful to us in any context. It doesn't matter if he spent 30 seconds saying it; he should not have said that stuff at all.

Carl Spackler 08-17-2014 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1707318)
The way our union is structured and the legal environment it exists in make it very difficult for the union to avoid being exposed when a member purposely throws himself or another member under the bus with the intent of triggering a DFR claim. It is against ALPA's very inclusive nature to expel a member, but if the member is trying to kill the union and all attempts at reconciliation fail, then what would you suggest?

Fascinating. Now you admit to the goofiness of trying to go after all 5,000 DPA members, but you're still interested in going after the leader. You advocate ALPA going after one guy, yet you decry DPA for going after one guy. As I've always said with you Bar, your outrage is selective and highly partisan.

The member is not trying to "kill" ALPA. The member is using the democratic process to see if Delta pilots can be given an opportunity to vote in a new union. If you think that action will "kill" ALPA, that says more about ALPA than anything else.

Also, ALPA has done nothing to reconcile. ALPA has done nothing but insult and demean. DALPA has funded a "special committee" devoted to destroy the DPA and has called all involved liars. Hardly an attempt at reconciliation Bar. This is why I think Tim is pushing this. You and the Special Committee have called Tim a liar and said he likely hacked his own website due to his incompetence. Evidence is starting to look uncomfortable for ALPA, yet Tim is only demanding that DALPA apologize. DALPA refuses and doubles down on the "liar" tactic with this latest "True Headings".

If I was ALPA's counsel, I would issue an apology and have the hacker issue an apology. It is my belief that would have ended this a long time ago, and would probably still end it today. But being an ALPA insider means never having to say you're sorry. It's still not too late, but my bet is that ALPA will just continue to dig in their heels.

Carl

Carl Spackler 08-17-2014 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1707352)
"Unity" the old-fashioned way...with a 2x4.

You are agitating for the expulsion of nearly half of the pilot group. How on earth can you preach "unity" after that rant?

Bar does this from time to time. Too many White Russians in too short of time. He'll realize the clear hypocrisy soon and issue a retraction.

Carl

80ktsClamp 08-17-2014 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1707373)
My spidey sense tells me Moak is far too savvy a player to get rolled like that. That "misrepresented by a hostile reporter" story just seems like heavily refined (and highly predictable) damage-control spin.

To me, the stuff he said wasn't helpful to us in any context. It doesn't matter if he spent 30 seconds saying it; he should not have said that stuff at all.

Whatever Moak said to him was enough to get him to do a complete about face on the subject.


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