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Colganguy,

Management is pro Delta and pro management. They will deal with whoever the pilots send to the table.

The Delta pilots are tolerant of this DPA thing. ALPA bends over backwards to serve and placate.

Do whatever you wish. Perhaps best to just ignore the mess, unless you are into that sort of thing.

Mesabah

08-17-2014 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1707343)

I could be wrong, but I seem to remember that I was responding to a post in which you said that you distrusted ALPA. My apologies if I misunderstood that you were actually referring to my reps and those of my fellow Delta pilots. You not being one of their constituents, and I say this with all due respect, have no right to expect their faithful representation.

No, I didn't mean that either. I don't trust the entire organization that is ALPA, because they have lied to me, and deceived me on several occasions. I have no way to vote out anyone but my own reps. Which is akin to throwing a baseball at a mountain, and expecting to move the mountain.

jabwmu

08-17-2014 10:14 PM

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Alan Shore

08-18-2014 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1707447)

I have no way to vote out anyone but my own reps. Which is akin to throwing a baseball at a mountain, and expecting to move the mountain.

Such mountains have, however, been moved from time to time when the cause was just. If you feel that yours is, and you can convince enough others of that, then you can and should continue the fight to be represented by those you trust.

Never give up that fight.

Alan Shore

08-18-2014 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by index (Post 1707399)

ALPA insiders are concerned about one thing and one thing only, keeping their place at the FPL feed trough.

If you say so.

Alan Shore

08-18-2014 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Rogue24 (Post 1707402)

How much does the contract history state our cost per seat mile is?

1.36 cents in 2013, according to the Contract History that just came out.

Hillbilly

08-18-2014 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by index (Post 1707251)

Can you give some example of federal offenses that a pilot could commit that were "directly related to his employment"? Certainly there are drug/alcohol offenses that may fit into that category, but do you think hacking a fellow pilot's website has ANYTHING TO DO with the purported offender's services to his/her employer?

I don't think this case has anything to do with the purported offender's employment.

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Hillbilly

08-18-2014 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1707333)

My opinion on the hacking stuff: Both ALPA and the DPA are making themselves look awful. Freaking sick of it.

......+717

Hillbilly

08-18-2014 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by index (Post 1707399)

I do. And you know why? Because it's true!

And here's one more truism for you. ALPA insiders are concerned about one thing and one thing only, keeping their place at the FPL feed trough.

Carry on soldier. Say, you wouldn't happen to be on FPL would you?

While I do not doubt there are some individuals who would fit that description, that's a broad and inaccurate brush you're painting with index. I know three pilots who were full-time FPL as committee chairmen or vice-chairmen that voluntarily returned to the line in the last 9 months despite being asked to stay. There have been others as well during that time frame, although I am unsure as to whether their departures were voluntary or not.

forgot to bid

08-18-2014 03:34 AM

With football about to start, have we decided whether or not UT stands for University of Texas or Tennessee? Thoughts?

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