Originally Posted by ImTumbleweed (Post 1706283)

Alan,

Do you think the JV non-compliance should be included in the 2015 contract?

I think it's a stand alone issue, and should be addressed outside of contract negotiations.

What are your thoughts?

Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1707047)

Numerous discussions with my reps have led me to believe that, while achieving consensus can in fact be quite a cumbersome process, it is quite possible and always worthwhile in the end. And the alternative, that of a dictatorship, is never preferable.

So yes. As with any democracy, there are layers to wade through and you have to be able to bring others around to your point of view to have that perspective carry the day.

I consider that neither BS nor getting nowhere. It is what it is. We can either sit behind our keyboards and wish it were different, or we can stand up and get into the game as our reps have done.

Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1707066)

Democracy is one of the worst forms of government, it gives rise to factions, and the loss of individual rights. The alternative is not dictatorship, however, a constitution that protects the rights of the union worker. The basic right being, that a union worker should not be able to vote another union worker out of a job.

Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1707065)

I do not. IMO, the MEC should file a grievance on April 1, 2015 and concurrently request expedited arbitration under Section 1 M. This requires that the arbitration be completed within 60 days of filing, i.e., by May 31, and that the Board render its decision within 90 days of filing, i.e., by June 30.

While we may well have exchanged openers by then, I can't imagine that we'll be anywhere close to being through Section 6, and so the two issues can remain completely separate, as they should be.

Originally Posted by NWA320pilot (Post 1707073)

Maybe we should approach the company now regarding the compliance issue and see how that "proactive engagement" works for us. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1707031)

The only "self-notification" is for a trip or short call that they place on our line by 1500 on our last X-day. Any other time still requires a phone call from scheduling.

And a reserve pilot no longer has the requirement to acknowledge a trip or short call that's been placed on his line.

Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1707088)

I think there is one other instance where CS does not have to call a reserve and that is the schedule check a reserve is supposed to do upon block in from a reserve trip.

Originally Posted by badflaps (Post 1706886)

You guys.... always kidding, that is clearly a Handley-Page Four shooter..

Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1707068)

If you say so. But how does that relate to whether or not we trust our reps?