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Originally Posted by Check Essential
(Post 1707164)
So you buy the "accidental mixing of web traffic" defense?
People going to the DPA website got randomly directed to a Delta pilot's website that just happened to have anti-DPA propaganda on it? C'mon man. If ALPA had nothing to do with this, they should say so. But don't insult our intelligence. Telling a lie about how it happened makes their denial of involvement look like a lie also. ALPA has said repeatedly in every communication on the subject that I have read that they had nothing to do with this. Somehow you seem to have overlooked that based on the post above. You even jumped to the conclusion earlier in the thread that the latest True Headings said ALPA knew the hacker all along even though it stated very clearly that the pilot involved was NOT "John Doe". This whole subject is a waste of time in my opinion and only serving as a distraction to the pilot group when we should be getting focused on the upcoming Section 6 and ensuring we maximize our opportunities at the negotiating table. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by index
(Post 1707189)
And I wonder why you tolerate and defend an illegal act against a fellow pilot when there was no clear goal other than harassment.
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
(Post 1707164)
So you buy the "accidental mixing of web traffic" defense?
People going to the DPA website got randomly directed to a Delta pilot's website that just happened to have anti-DPA propaganda on it? C'mon man. If ALPA had nothing to do with this, they should say so. But don't insult our intelligence. Telling a lie about how it happened makes their denial of involvement look like a lie also. |
Originally Posted by Hillbilly
(Post 1707146)
If it turns out there was no actual "hacking" of the website at all, it'll be a $0 question and another waste of time and money.
1. Did you read the letter by Mr. Private Writings--the one that was drafted with the assistance of ALPA National staff attorneys? 2. Do you actually believe what's in the letter? 3. If yes, do you actually believe that a website with an anti-DPA message just accidentally and coincidentally showed up on the DPA website? Our profession is made up of skeptics. It's part of our DNA. It's what helps keep us safe and alive. Most of us can sniff BS out a mile away. This one stinks a hundred miles out. |
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1707198)
They have said that they had nothing to do with it. Multiple times.
O.J. said he was innocent. What's your point? |
Originally Posted by Hillbilly
(Post 1707137)
Just a guess on my part, but I bet it is because he came forward to ALPA after he heard about the accusation.
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1707196)
I am not convinced anything "illegal" took place and I am certain there was no harm what so ever; none.
Luckily we have a legal system that will sort this out. And if it turns out that someone is found liable for a tort or guilty of a criminal act, you'll say the court got it wrong. This blame the offender and attack the victim mentality that you and others share is frightening. Anything to protect your beloved club. |
Originally Posted by index
(Post 1707184)
Juries and judges never find someone "innocent." In the criminal system, you're either found guilty or not guilty. This case (so far) is only a civil case. Civil juries answer questions posed to them in the form of a charge from the judge. For the most part, they only answer yes or no as to whether or not the plaintiff (of defendant as the case may be) proved the elements to their case.
I would hope "Doe" pops up with his (her's, its') own Counsel who is an aggressive, energetic, early riser with a penchant for justice. ALPA will not vigorously pursue fees, costs, penalties or a slander claim against the DPA, but by golly someone should vigorously pursue such claims against the plaintiff in this matter. I'd like to see the DPA members jointly and individually held responsible for the action they have supported. |
Originally Posted by Check Essential
(Post 1707138)
And the $64,000 question ....
Does that pilot have any connection to DALPA? (and if the answer is yes, make that $64 million) |
Originally Posted by index
(Post 1707199)
Three questions for you Hillbilly:
1. Did you read the letter by Mr. Private Writings--the one that was drafted with the assistance of ALPA National staff attorneys? 2. Do you actually believe what's in the letter? 3. If yes, do you actually believe that a website with an anti-DPA message just accidentally and coincidentally showed up on the DPA website? Our profession is made up of skeptics. It's part of our DNA. It's what helps keep us safe and alive. Most of us can sniff BS out a mile away. This one stinks a hundred miles out. 1. Yes 2. I don't think it's false. I do think it read very scripted and struck me as odd with the choice of words, etc. and it did raise my BS flag initially. Then I realized that the only part of any significance (in my opinion) was the part about how the individual admitted to not having the skillset necessary to hack anything and the redirect was discovered when they logged on to their own site. Hacking is the accusation after all. 3. No I don't. I suspect when the person logged onto their personal site and saw they were getting redirects they had some fun with it. Not the best headwork, but also not criminal hacking as far as I can tell. I agree that the whole thing stinks to high heaven. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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