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marcal 01-15-2015 05:48 PM

Can anyone recommend a place to play golf on a PBI layover? Preferably a place that has loner clubs since I'm not lugging mine all over the place.

Thanks.

Roadkill 01-15-2015 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1804478)
Damn PCS. Got a trip that blocks in at 2338. Trip ends at 0008 thus making it uncommutable. I put avoid trips with later than 2130 check out. Feel like I was screwed by a loophole.

You need to use "Checkout between 0500 and 2130" or two separate lines,
Checkout > 0500
Checkout < 2130

Of course as soon as we allowed them the loophole of not paying 5:15 adg for days that end before 0200 or whatever, they reprogrammed the flights to get in at 0008. A non-commutable trip end for me might as well be 1 more day of pay, as I CAN find trips that pay for their days that end at 0900 or so, as early as I'll catch a flight home anyways.

Hrkdrivr 01-15-2015 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by MikeF16 (Post 1804775)
Is there any seniority consideration when awarding YS to fly when on reserve? A friend and I are separated by 1 number with a similar YS to fly on reserve submitted. He got called for a trip while I did not and he is the junior of the two of us. He has already flown a couple trips on reserve (combined 4 days) and I've only had 1 1-day. Just curious if I should've been assigned that trip or is it completely random.

Thanks.

Are you both consolidated?

I put in for YSs when I was new on reserve (and thought I was getting them because I flew nearly every reserve block), but when I looked at the Pilot Activity Statements (I think) for the time period, they were not YS awards after all.

I think the schedulers push newbs to get consolidated ASAP.

Maybe you're consolidated and he's not? Did he actually get a YS?

Roadkill 01-15-2015 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1804768)
What are the pros/cons of allowing out of base swap board pick ups. Pilots in base should have 1st rights to the trip but if a trip sits on the swap board for a long time and eventually doesn't get picked up by anyone, what is the harm of an out of base pilot flying the trip? Out of base white slips usually end up flying trips that reserve pilots don't want and an out of base swap board would allow a pilot to drop a trip that he would otherwise get stuck flying. Seems like a win win but I realize that there are probably some negative consequences that I'm overlooking.


Short answer: REDUCED MANNING!!!

Longer answer: Pilot Greed, guys desiring to score flying out of a base they are not willing to bid, results absolutely without question in reduced manning requirements.

Summary: Anyone who desires to be able to fly out of base swaps/pickups/slips is a greedy SOB who puts their wallet above the seniority list and manning levels of the pilot group. And should be beaten about the head and shoulders with a herring if not worse.

MikeF16 01-15-2015 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by Hrkdrivr (Post 1804817)
Are you both consolidated?

I put in for YSs when I was new on reserve (and thought I was getting them because I flew nearly every reserve block), but when I looked at the Pilot Activity Statements (I think) for the time period, they were not YS awards after all.

I think the schedulers push newbs to get consolidated ASAP.

Neither of us is consolidated. Same indoc class, 1st month on the line, both reserve. BTW, not sure if the played in. I just got called and put on 30 hours rest. The rest was not mandatory yet and I could've flown the trip in question legally without it, but they'd have had to put me on rest immediately after.

Timbo 01-15-2015 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by MikeF16 (Post 1804743)
Another new guy question. Is it normal for a bid package to completely miss when estimating the number of lines? NYC 717 predicted 39 lines but there were only 26. Seems like a pretty big discontinuity, should I just disregard the prediction in the future or is this some sort of anomaly? Thanks.

I believe I answered that a few days ago, can't recall if it was you or someone else who asked, but with every 'new' category, that stuff is complete garbage, until they get -everyone- trained and converted.

And...as soon as you think you have it figured out...

Network will change it! :rolleyes:

iFlyer 01-15-2015 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by MikeF16 (Post 1804775)
Is there any seniority consideration when awarding YS to fly when on reserve? A friend and I are separated by 1 number with a similar YS to fly on reserve submitted. He got called for a trip while I did not and he is the junior of the two of us. He has already flown a couple trips on reserve (combined 4 days) and I've only had 1 1-day. Just curious if I should've been assigned that trip or is it completely random.

Thanks.

If your RAW score is the same (most likely), compare your days of availability - they are supposed to use a matching day before they move to the next day group (ie. 2-day trip to a 2-day guy, before they move to someone with, say 5 days still left on call). That might 'splain it.

FIIGMO 01-15-2015 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by Roadkill (Post 1804819)
Short answer: REDUCED MANNING!!!

Longer answer: Pilot Greed, guys desiring to score flying out of a base they are not willing to bid, results absolutely without question in reduced manning requirements.

Summary: Anyone who desires to be able to fly out of base swaps/pickups/slips is a greedy SOB who puts their wallet above the seniority list and manning levels of the pilot group. And should be beaten about the head and shoulders with a herring if not worse.


That is plain out of line...


Much more to life and choices and circumstance to judge others so harshly without knowing any facts. I am Not willing to allow out of base pickups mind you but, at some times using the laws of the system to benefit is a perk of collective bargaining. When we all agree on a secret handshake about protecting jobs with work action, and some barking sphincter takes the monetary advantage you then may have a point. For now, you are out of line...

MikeF16 01-15-2015 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1804843)
I believe I answered that a few days ago, can't recall if it was you or someone else who asked, but with every 'new' category, that stuff is complete garbage, until they get -everyone- trained and converted.

And...as soon as you think you have it figured out...

Network will change it! :rolleyes:

Hmm, now that you bring it up I think you did mention this earlier. Thanks again, slow learner here. I did the math and came up with 23 lines plus a few slop since I assumed min credit per day and no vacation and was significantly closer than the bid package. Sorry to be right :(. I just missed getting a line, but looking at the last line in the category I might have done better anyway. I'll have more days off than him but since I'm commuting to reserve I'd definitely prefer flying to hanging out in the pad.

pilotjockey 01-15-2015 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by FIIGMO (Post 1804853)
That is plain out of line...


Much more to life and choices and circumstance to judge others so harshly without knowing any facts. I am Not willing to allow out of base pickups mind you but, at some times using the laws of the system to benefit is a perk of collective bargaining. When we all agree on a secret handshake about protecting jobs with work action, and some barking sphincter takes the monetary advantage you then may have a point. For now, you are out of line...

hear hear

Originally Posted by Roadkill (Post 1804819)
Short answer: REDUCED MANNING!!!

Longer answer: Pilot Greed, guys desiring to score flying out of a base they are not willing to bid, results absolutely without question in reduced manning requirements.

Summary: Anyone who desires to be able to fly out of base swaps/pickups/slips is a greedy SOB who puts their wallet above the seniority list and manning levels of the pilot group. And should be beaten about the head and shoulders with a herring if not worse.

can you explain why, i dont believe you


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