Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
08-22-2014, 10:23 AM
Can't abide NAI
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Posts: 11,989
Originally Posted by Piklepausepull
According to the 717 guys, DAL is so HAPPY with the jet that we are looking for MORE!
I'm really confused now!
I'm really confused now!
But, it could be they sniff the market changing.
08-22-2014, 10:25 AM
No longer cares
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: 767er Captain
Posts: 12,109
Originally Posted by WidgetDriver
Had a LCA tell me that the company isn't happy with the 717 numbers. He said they aren't getting the fuel numbers they were hoping for, and they expected it to go more junior. He said to expect an announcement this fall that they are going to stop taking delivery of the rest of the 717s.
Actually the real interesting blowoff from this theory is what SWA would then do with those airplanes. Maybe this is an attempt to drive their costs up more....
08-22-2014, 10:31 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: Captain
Posts: 821
Originally Posted by WidgetDriver
Had a LCA tell me that the company isn't happy with the 717 numbers. He said they aren't getting the fuel numbers they were hoping for, and they expected it to go more junior. He said to expect an announcement this fall that they are going to stop taking delivery of the rest of the 717s.
And I agree with the other poster, the senioirty issue makes no sense whatsoever. At this point, 99 percent of the captains were going to be 12 year guys. The top half of the FO seat maybe a little more senior, but I severely doubt that that would be the tipping point for profitability.
08-22-2014, 10:37 AM
looking for underboob
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: NYC 7ER LCA
Posts: 900
Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Hey, is working 15 days and getting 217 hrs any good?!?
Denny
Denny
08-22-2014, 10:48 AM
At home on the maddog!
Joined APC: Mar 2009
Position: ATL MD-88A
Posts: 2,874
Originally Posted by WidgetDriver
Had a LCA tell me that the company isn't happy with the 717 numbers. He said they aren't getting the fuel numbers they were hoping for, and they expected it to go more junior. He said to expect an announcement this fall that they are going to stop taking delivery of the rest of the 717s.
08-22-2014, 11:15 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: 737A
Posts: 1,890
Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Hey, is working 15 days and getting 217 hrs any good?!?
Denny
Denny
08-22-2014, 11:16 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2009
Posts: 121
The 717 is a great plane for the markets it's serving and opening up for delta. Plus it's a great defensive move against the whole industry. There is not a capable 100 seat plane out there, that you can get a lot of (emb190 is fine but you can get 88 in a year). We now can saturate a market open up a market segment a market with a100 seat jet, while our competitors cannot. They have to a bus or 737.
08-22-2014, 11:23 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: window seat
Posts: 12,522
Originally Posted by WidgetDriver
Had a LCA tell me that the company isn't happy with the 717 numbers. He said they aren't getting the fuel numbers they were hoping for, and they expected it to go more junior. He said to expect an announcement this fall that they are going to stop taking delivery of the rest of the 717s.
If anything, the fuel numbers have been well established. That rumor fails the sniff test right out of the box.
08-22-2014, 11:25 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: window seat
Posts: 12,522
Originally Posted by RockyBoy
Maybe having a fleet of E-175's and E-190's makes them not as attractive as they were a year ago.
08-22-2014, 11:32 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: window seat
Posts: 12,522
Originally Posted by RonRicco
As far as the fuel issue goes, this would be counter to what they have said about fuel burn in the past, especially with regards to shorter legs. I would also think with an aircraft type that has been operated as long as the 71 has, they would have had pretty solid numbers ahead of time.
And I agree with the other poster, the senioirty issue makes no sense whatsoever. At this point, 99 percent of the captains were going to be 12 year guys. The top half of the FO seat maybe a little more senior, but I severely doubt that that would be the tipping point for profitability.
And I agree with the other poster, the senioirty issue makes no sense whatsoever. At this point, 99 percent of the captains were going to be 12 year guys. The top half of the FO seat maybe a little more senior, but I severely doubt that that would be the tipping point for profitability.
Even if the plane "went too senior" whatever that means, that just means where they would have been (100% in higher paying equipment) is more junior and cheaper than it would have been. The fuel numbers have long been established and I seriously doubt AirTran could keep something so super top secret for so long, even if they were the only source, which obviously they weren't. Boeing, Hawaiian and every other operator would also have to be in on it to complete the conspiracy.
I'm calling it. Time of rumor death: 19:32Z
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
