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Old 08-27-2014 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Just to put some reality into the hours worked here are some numbers. The average Delta pilot flew in the 40 to 42 hour a month range from 200o to 2005. Post chapter 11 that jumped to 52 hours or almost 20 percent more. That number has slowly dropped as we incrementally gained improvements. In 2013 the number was 41.9 hours up slightly from 2012.
Sailing,

Please site your source for the information you posted. Where did you get those numbers.

And do those numbers include guys who aren't actively flying (Mil leave, disability, ect).

Links to the source would be best, thanks.
Old 08-27-2014 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
What a bunch of tripe.

Why should we care whether she falls under your definition of an "outsider."

Moak's an "insider." And he just sold us down the river; he is looking out for himself and has done worse than nothing...he's taken up the case against us. The wolf is in the henhouse, and you're unable or unwilling to admit it.

I'll take the "outsider," thank you.
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Old 08-27-2014 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Any of you crazies have the GoPro Hero 3+ silver or black? Any feedback on if the black is worth the extra 130 bucks? I got a silver at the eglin bx for 270 today... wondering if there is that stark of a difference between the two for the price difference.

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Old 08-27-2014 | 06:44 PM
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Buddy of mine bought the black. He begged me out of a 64GB card I had and never seems to do much with his files due to the hassle of working with such large output (could just be him, I dunno).

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I can wait to see the averages for this year. I'm flying nearly twice the block I ever did for Delta before. It's about 1/2 more efficient schedules and 1/2 that we're so short on pilots in the narrow body categories.

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Sketchy Asian Carriers running short on crews:

Malaysian Airlines has been losing cabin crew at a higher than normal rate recently and the leader of its biggest union says there's no mystery there. Abu Malek Ariff told AFP some employees "are now afraid to fly." Since the missile attack on one of its aircraft in Ukraine, which followed the March disappearance of another Boeing 777, it's believed that family pressure has also convinced some of the flying staff to find other work. At total of 186 people quit following the Ukraine incident. More than 500 people, including 27 crew, are either dead or missing without a trace in the two incidents. "Following the MH17 incident, there was a spike in crew resignations but the number has now decreased to acceptable and routinely expected levels," the airline said in a statement. "Many cited 'family pressure' as the reason for their resignation due to the MH17 and MH370 tragedies." Meanwhile, Thai Airways is denying reports that it's facing an exodus from its cockpits over the airline's troubled financial situation.

A local report said 200 pilots quit suddenly because they're worried about the deficit the state-controlled carrier is running and the debts it's running up. The airline told a news conference Monday that 30 pilots have quit but it hasn't affected operations. Thai Airways announced earlier this year that it is restructuring after more than a year of heavy losses and will lose about 25 percent of its workforce by 2018. The airline now has 24,000 employees operating a mostly aging mixed fleet of Boeing and Airbus aircraft and faces stiff competition from carriers springing up in neighboring countries. Restructuring of the airline was ordered by the ruling military junta, which has given orders to a so-called "super committee" to restore the airline to world-class status over the next five years.
Old 08-27-2014 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DogWhisperer
Sailing...how can that be....? Had Dave Bushy(sp?) on the jumpseat two weeks after he stepped down as flight ops big wig back in late '01 or '02ish. He claimed those EXACT same numbers to my captain (actually claimed 49 hour average) when he made the statement that the pilots needed to be more productive. The same number was told to me by Mike Hanson prior to our latest agreement. How is this number possible? We are flying more hours with fewer pilots... I am challenged being a product of the Louisiana edumication sistem but something just doesn't smell right...DW
Maybe it's the company's opener? You guys need to be more productive.
Old 08-27-2014 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
What a bunch of tripe from one of Moak's disciples.

Why should we care whether she falls under your definition of an "outsider."

Moak's an "insider." And he just sold us down the river. He is looking out for himself, and has done worse than nothing; he's taken up the case against us. The "wolf" is in the henhouse, and you're unable or unwilling to admit it.

Those of us who aren't one of Moak's disciples and are capable of exercising common sense will take the "outsider," thank you.
I love this guy ^^^

You and Carl have been railing for years now about how National has too much influence in Delta pilot's affairs/"conflict of interest"/yadayada

Now suddenly you seem to be in favor of a United pilot dictating to the Delta pilot group what we should be willing to accept in a contract. Which is it?

And Purple, you and Carl are the only ones labeling yourselves as outsiders - which you both seem to covet as a badge of honor or something... We're on the same team whether you like it or not.
Old 08-27-2014 | 07:20 PM
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pardon me if i'm late to respond here, but of course reserve is more senior now. It's more senior because of these ridiculously sized raw bucket windows that really help senior guys not have to work. Also we need 5:15 min day, not 5:15 ADG..what a joke that is.
Old 08-27-2014 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Maybe it's the company's opener? You guys need to be more productive.
Of course that will be the company's opener.

It's their JOB to negotiate to make us MORE productive.

It's when our union people say that we're not productive enough I get worried.
Old 08-27-2014 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
No one hates 2007 hires. Only the argument that we need to go back to the system we all worked under at the time they were hired. And I don't think anyone is trying to design a system where we "get back" at 2007 guys, or you.
I hate 2007 hires. I think I was born that way. I often encourage other people to hate them too.

I think we should design a reserve system that screws 2007 hires. Write your reps. Answer the calls to action.

2007 hires have it too easy and more senior pilots are having to fly before the 2007 hire has hit ALV+15. That is wrong!






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Old 08-27-2014 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ImTumbleweed
Sailing,

Please site your source for the information you posted. Where did you get those numbers.

And do those numbers include guys who aren't actively flying (Mil leave, disability, ect).

Links to the source would be best, thanks.


Warning - Public Math and crude estimates follow:

The Contract 2015, Delta Pilots Contract history that we received lists the following for Block Hours flown:


DAL in 2000 - 2,269,404 Block hours flown. *
NW in 2000 - 1,487,463 Block hours flown.
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Using 10,000 Pilots at DAL you get about 227 hours per Pilot.
Using 7000 Pilots at NW you get about 212 hours per Pilot.

You can multiply these numbers by 2 and get 454 and 424 average block time respectively in 2000.

DAL combined in 2012 flew 2,642,225 Block hours.

Using 11,500 Pilots you get about 230 block hours per Pilot.

Multiplying by 2 you get 460 average block time per Pilot.

Note - I am estimating the number of total pilots for each of these snapshots. 10,000 was pretty much dead on for DAL in 2000, and 11,500 is close to what we had in 2012.

7000 for NW in 2000 was a total guess. If anyone has more accurate numbers they can recalculate more accurate numbers.

You can tweak these numbers any way you like - I am not taking into account any MIL leaves, Sick, LOA, augmented crews etc - that is beyond my knowledge level.

* From page 6.
** From page 8

These numbers differ from the block hours listed on page 3 (although they are very close) which considering it is all the same document does not really inspire confidence.

I think the big takeaway here is how much the combined DAL has shrunk since the merger - total bummer. Although, to be fair most of that "shrinkage" had already occurred by 2007 when the combined block hour total was approximately 3,000,000.

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