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Old 08-30-2014 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
I'm fine with a displacement bid. I have no problem watching 60 year old plus pilots going to training and taking a paycut. I would rather do that than pay them to leave. A lot of junior pilots probably feel the same way as me.
I agree 100%. 60+ year olds with full pensions based upon pre-BK pay rates. Pass.
Old 08-30-2014 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
I'm fine with a displacement bid. I have no problem watching 60 year old plus pilots going to training and taking a paycut. I would rather do that than pay them to leave. A lot of junior pilots probably feel the same way as me.
Displacements will come from the bottom of the whale list. Better go look at the seniority list for the bottom 25% on the whale most of these guys aren't to the 60 year mark yet.
Old 08-30-2014 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
I'm fine with a displacement bid. I have no problem watching 60 year old plus pilots going to training and taking a paycut. I would rather do that than pay them to leave. A lot of junior pilots probably feel the same way as me.
Don't worry 95% of those being displaced are under 60.
Old 08-30-2014 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Get real, how much money do you think is involved in training 40 Captains? Most of the costs are fixed. Your saying if the company offers a ER program in seniority order and fully funds the incentives in the program we should tell them to stick it unless they give us more? The cost for the ER program is almost certain to exceed the training costs. The company will simply say fine we won't do the program. A displacement bid will be posted the next day.
Read my post more carefully. I'm against it only if its OUT of seniority.

And I'm not buying for one second your argument that displacing 747 captains is low cost. Especially if some of them will only be on the new equipment for a few months and then retire.

Get real. Management doesn't "fully fund" anything out of the goodness of their hearts. They are offering to do it because it saves them money.
Old 08-30-2014 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by casual observer
If your wife and kid are sicked out, I'd call over some of the neighbors and a few strippers to amp it up a little.
Sierra Nevada Torpedoes...this stupid forum has RUINED ME!!!! Used to be satisfied with Blue Moon and Shock Top...NO MORE!!! Now...on layovers...I can be found in dark alleyways seeking my next "Hopp Fix".... Latest hit...Monkeynaut...HSV microbrew...

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Old 08-30-2014 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Get real. Management doesn't "fully fund" anything out of the goodness of their hearts. They are offering to do it because it saves them money.
Exactly. If they want to "fully fund" the ER program then we need to know the cost difference between that and what the cost would be to displace or just leave the category fat until guys retire on their own. That difference should be divided equally among the rest of us and put into our 401K plan.

I think we should have just left the 117 negotiations and this ER deal alone and told them we'll talk about this stuff in 2015. The company is getting everything that gives us leverage out of the way so that they can run the operation for a few years during record profits without negotiating a new contract.
Old 08-30-2014 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
Exactly. If they want to "fully fund" the ER program then we need to know the cost difference between that and what the cost would be to displace or just leave the category fat until guys retire on their own. That difference should be divided equally among the rest of us and put into our 401K plan.

I think we should have just left the 117 negotiations and this ER deal alone and told them we'll talk about this stuff in 2015. The company is getting everything that gives us leverage out of the way so that they can run the operation for a few years during record profits without negotiating a new contract.
Someone gets it
Old 08-30-2014 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by badflaps
As I sit here in TYS waiting for the 05:40, an Eagle skipper just walked by, no tie and gray white lace tennies. Atta boy.....
An L-EGL capt? Or one of the 11 or 12 regional affiliates now flying AS American Eagle?

Probably a PSA pilot dressed up as an Egl guy.

AAG destroyed their "eagle" product.
Whipsaw galore.
Old 08-30-2014 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by DogWhisperer
Sierra Nevada Torpedoes...this stupid forum has RUINED ME!!!! Used to be satisfied with Blue Moon and Shock Top...NO MORE!!! Now...on layovers...I can be found in dark alleyways seeking my next "Hopp Fix".... Latest hit...Monkeynaut...HSV microbrew...

+1

Hopps gooooood - more hops, better! I live in beervana (PDX area) and am an unashamed IPA snob and hop head. Having said that, I have really enjoyed sampling the great local brews that are popping up all over the country (Monkeynaut, for example!). When I read this talk of Blue Moon, Bud Lite Lime, and kegs of Pacifico!!? I just have to shake my head Torpedo and Rebel might be good, nationally available, options but when I'm on a layover, I make a point of trying the locals first. Seriously people, when you're stocking up for that BBQ try going local, if you can - you might be pleasantly surprised!
Old 08-30-2014 | 09:23 AM
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Who said 40 captains displaced? At 10 capt per airplane or more there will be by next yr 80 plus capt displaced. Most of them are avg age 55. And what is funny is now they will displace the RD 777 guys who intern displace on down the line. This could be a huge ramifications to our group. You guys ***** about pilots staying till 65! Now when you have a chance to get them to leave early you don't want them too. Go figure...
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