Yeah I guess. The main thing we would get from them we could get on our own anyway really. From our perspective it would be a nice shot of adrenaline to get them instantly, but like Seattle, if a HNL hub made sense, we could go in there tomorrow and start a "Win in Honolulu" type buildup. You are right though that getting access to HND and the 330/717s would be a nice shot, but the geographical puzzle piece is easy to get without leveraging ourselves.

SPAM. You posted this on the contract thread.

There is just no fooling an intellectual like you.

If we could monetize the profit sharing at this years profit level it would be incredibly stupid not to do so. The company is highly unlikely to go for that deal.
There have however been no discussions with the company on profit sharing or about a early contract opening contrary to your posts.

If you give up $25,000 in profit sharing and get a $25,000 pay increase, how much did you gain?

You are stuck in the past. The air line industry has changed forever.

Our profit in 2015 will exceed $5.5 billion and the economy is just getting started.

Why make concessions?

We need a minimum of 25% date of signing along with major improvements in every section of the PWA.

Sorry Lee Moak. I know that hurts your management loving ears.

Anyone else have the answers pre-loaded on the survey?

Yeah Jerry. you got me. :rolleyes:

Only if it is above and beyond what we can get in a pay increase without it. Other than that, I agree with Jerry. It should be off the table. For the life of any contract we are about to negotiate, profits are going to be in the cards. Delta IS going to make big profit$. Delta's profit for the next 5 years or so is gonna be off the charts. Now on the NEXT contract, it should be examined, and it would be stupid not to. Once it's gone though, it's gone forever. I'll happily take the chance on this one, and reevaluate it on the next.

If you lock in 25,000 verses a possibility of 25,000 that is a big gain. Delta is now returning yields in line with most companies. It's not likely those yields will go much if any higher. More capacity will flow into the market place preventing that. It's far more likely that Over the next 10 years profits will drop. If they can maintain the yields for a profit increase they will need to expand which means more employees and the same amount of profit sharing per employee.
Again if tomorrow Delta offered a 14% raise to end the profit sharing we should jump all over it. They won't offer it however because it would not be a good deal for management.

Why then did you propose about a week ago that we should give a productivity concession for increased pay? :confused: