I was told by a 74-400 apd on the Jumpseat today that he is hearing 4 retirements this year 4 next year and the rest of the fleet gone in the next 2 1/2 years.....FWIW.

 

It is hard Carl, had a really tough day today at the Tripletree flyin! Sadly it looks like the weather could be a issue for the weekend. For those in the in the Atlanta area or anywhere within a few hours drive well worth loading up your kids in the car and heading over. Fantastic collection of airplanes and people.
I do have to say there is however something not quite right about a 7000 foot long and 400 foot wide grass runway that's smooth as a putting green! The owner was asked why he built a 7000 foot long grass strip and he replied, "I hit the river and ran out of room".

http://www.tripletreeaerodrome.com/t...ree-fly-in.php

 

I wouldn't get your hopes up.

 

Thread Creep:

October, Delta will be cutting SEA-Haneda service due to low seasonal demand.

^^^^^^^^^^^

There is no money in NRT, HND, 747-400, Cargo, ETC ETC ETC

Continue

TEN

 

So are you saying we should continue to fly HND even if it loses money? Or was that a "joke"?

 

You aren't qualified for anything until you complete training. IOE & TOE are training events and the LOE LCA signs off the final flight and certifies you as a substitute for the FAA. Delta can (may) schedule you for Int'l trips but you won't be liable for them. If you're a Capt, they'll attempt to get a LCA or AQFO to fly with you if you need a theatre qualification.

 

I'm not sure you answered the question. I'm talking about CDO's, not redeyes or other types of night flying. On "normal" CDO's (you know something like was originally proposed in the latest TA where you fly a late night flight out and an early morning flight back the next morning with something like about 6 or 7 hours in between flights), how much sleep did you generally get during the day? i.e. During the day, did you take a couple hour power nap or did you get some serious sleep?


So on a typical CDO where you fly a short leg and get in, say, around 11:30pm and take the 6am flight back the next morning, you got maybe about 4 hours of sleep on average?

Oh, and on a side note... how do you think they came to be known as "illegals?"


Thanks, but I didn't ask you about comparing the CDO with Asia trips. I asked how much total sleep you had on average in the 24 hours preceding the morning flight. If you can answer questions #1 and #2, this is easy... simple addition.


The sleep science specifically references 8 hours as being the amount of sleep most normal human beings need in order to function at 100%.


Thank you. Any ideas why they specified 8 hours? (hint: see question #4 )


I think it matters. We're trying to establish whether most pilots get adequate rest when doing CDO's. What is the track record? As far as I know, there has been no study and therefore no published data exists. I think that's relevant before we entertain adding that type of flying at Delta.

You said you did CDO's. I'm assuming you know others who did as well. I'm asking about your personal experience with how much sleep you got and what others may have told you about how much sleep they got. Did you ever have conversations with anyone else about how they handled sleeping with CDO's? If so, what did they say?

 

Part in jest, part in frustration.

This company is so knee jerk. They just had a huge celebration of HND opening. They pulled out all the stops in SEA for HND. Kinda like them spending a ton of money on the 747-400 lie flat mods, and then .....oh never mind! All in good fun.

Their decisions cost a lot of money.

TEN

 

PS. I hate HND! I love NRT!

TEN

 

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FSU coach Jimbo Fisher apologizes for using word ‘retarded’
nov 13, 2012
By Post Staffer
Florida State coach Jimbo Fisher apologized Monday for using the term “retarded” in response to a question about his team’s ranking in the BCS standings that determine which teams play for the national championship.
After being asked about Florida State’s being 10th in the BCS behind three Southeastern Conference teams with two losses, he asked “how retarded is it?”
A few hours later, Fisher apologized.
“That’s not the way I think,” Fisher said. “It was a poor choice of words. I didn’t mean to offend anyone in any way.”