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Old 11-19-2014 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
Yikes! Thanks for the reminder. Back to the DPMP for me. One look at the propaganda they sent me telling me what a great deal that Delta was picking up 80 percent of the costs (THEIR costs, but not 80 percent of MY costs), and that I, (insert your name here), should be so happy to have such wonderful choices. Signed, a VP whose health care costs are covered at 100% by DL. Have a nice day. Anybody seen Southwest's medical plan? Yeah, it's better.
I agree. And now drugs are, for all practical purposes, paid out of pocket too.. It's not just Soutwest that's better. AAL and UAL have better coverage for the price!
Old 11-19-2014 | 05:54 PM
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Is this wrong?

If it is, "I don't want to be right!"

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Old 11-19-2014 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by CGfalconHerc
So much for my "local politics" theory..still good news for the west coast and Delta's WB footprint for the near future.
I thought it had some merit, but ultimately what matters to the customer is the willingness to commit metal and capital to the market. The 787 would simply be icing on the cake.

We don't buy American-made versions of German cars because we want American-made, but because we want German cars. It's unfortunate, but true.

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Longer term, let's not forget what happened right after the 737-900ER beat out the A321NEO for 100 orders: we ordered another batch of current generation Airbii. The WB replacement is only partially underway, with an order for 50.
Old 11-19-2014 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
Yikes! Thanks for the reminder. Back to the DPMP for me. One look at the propaganda they sent me telling me what a great deal that Delta was picking up 80 percent of the costs (THEIR costs, but not 80 percent of MY costs), and that I, (insert your name here), should be so happy to have such wonderful choices. Signed, a VP whose health care costs are covered at 100% by DL. Have a nice day. Anybody seen Southwest's medical plan? Yeah, it's better.
Where is the online info for the DPMP?
Old 11-19-2014 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Where is the online info for the DPMP?
ALPA website, search for DPMP Handbook 2015 and DPMP Dental Handbook 2015
Old 11-19-2014 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
ALPA website, search for DPMP Handbook 2015 and DPMP Dental Handbook 2015
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Old 11-19-2014 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by CGfalconHerc
All good points with so many moving parts to consider.

I don't think the O/D traffic is as much of a factor as ensuring "local" political help to aquire 30 gates and a new customs facility that will compete directly with AS on the North side.

Remember the Juno fiasco..a little Birdie told me that the JNU FSDO was in bed with AS to keep us out of there..thus the removal of Cat D circling mins and their subsequent return but with an ADF requirement to define the FAF..gee, DL 73N's don't have an ADF, that will keep them out of there and make it too expensive for DL, and if we can't get into JNU, maybe DL will think twice and just forget about their whole plan for SEA.

Whether that's true or not, I don't know.. we put the 757 on it..no worries, but it'd be nice to avoid the potential for similar "local" manipulation as we ramp up SEA.

A 787 order, along with some appropriate marketing, would make us less of the "foreign" invaders and more of the home team willing to fill the sky with Boeing WB's on "our" new home turf. That gesture might apply enough pressure to keep the AS operatives in check to get the facilities in SEA and ensure that all the details are met. We don't want to get a surprise like "thanks for spending all that money to build a new customs facility, but the local head honcho has decided that it won't be be manned during the big DL arrival bank, so everyone will have to be bussed ala Bradley in LAX".

I've spent enough time waiting for a fuel truck in CentAmer chasing druggies to know a little grease goes a long way..and 787's may help us keep a level playing field in SEA.
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Old 11-19-2014 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BigGuns
I agree. And now drugs are, for all practical purposes, paid out of pocket too.. It's not just Soutwest that's better. AAL and UAL have better coverage for the price!
Not to mention no biometric B.S. for the DPMP. Strengthening the DPMP was one of my major wants for the next contract. That's money in your pocket right there.
Old 11-19-2014 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
ALPA would never survive a regional/mainline integration, I highly doubt they would even attempt it. ALPA's regional plan is to do nothing, and hope everything works out.
PanAm absorbed their regional.
Old 11-19-2014 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by iceman49
PanAm absorbed their regional.
And PanAm is now....gone. Might not be the best example.
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