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Old 05-19-2015 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
I was on a trip last year where we were being pressured by the dispatcher to take off with a plan that would have us block 9:12 and go over our 2 hour extension (MD-88). When the dispatcher was told by the captain that we could not legally go over 9 hours block time while we were still on the ground the reply was "You're not going to to fly it as planned; Chicago will let you cut the corner." (Chicago center was not accepting traffic from the north and was pushing us to refile to the west). My DALPA reps didn't seem to concerned when I reported this to them. I let the Captain do that ASAP since he was the one who spoke to the dispatcher.
No deal. That's illegal even if you got away with it that time when 117 was new or whatever. No CA can ever pressure any FO into accepting an FAR illegal flight especially while still on the ground and especially on a recorded line with everyone involved acknowledhing the illegality.
Old 05-19-2015 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
I was on a trip last year where we were being pressured by the dispatcher to take off with a plan that would have us block 9:12 and go over our 2 hour extension (MD-88). When the dispatcher was told by the captain that we could not legally go over 9 hours block time while we were still on the ground the reply was "You're not going to to fly it as planned; Chicago will let you cut the corner." (Chicago center was not accepting traffic from the north and was pushing us to refile to the west). My DALPA reps didn't seem to concerned when I reported this to them. I let the Captain do that ASAP since he was the one who spoke to the dispatcher.
So did you fly it? The FAR is very clear on using the flight plan time not hoping for something shorter.
Old 05-19-2015 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by duece12345
You would think.....BUT,, I fly with guys that are complete life disasters quite frequently.. They could not hold a job as a Walmart cashier. The only reason they make the money they do is because they can pilot an airplane...that's it! Zero ability to interact with with people, Multiple divorces, kids hate them, etc. Not all, but I would say a good 25%. To be honest, I was surprised at how many trainwrecks I have flown with only being with the airline for 15 months. With that being said, they have treated me well and are solid pilots, but I am not sure they could easily bring in capt pay in another industry.
Dang. I can't even think of the last ER Captain I flew with who was close to that level of train wreck. What category are you in, so I can avoid it?

On the plus side, if they burn through wives like cars, the kids hate them and they can't interact with people, they may be suited for a 7 figure career on Wall Street.
Old 05-19-2015 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by duece12345
You would think.....BUT,, I fly with guys that are complete life disasters quite frequently.. They could not hold a job as a Walmart cashier. The only reason they make the money they do is because they can pilot an airplane...that's it! Zero ability to interact with with people, Multiple divorces, kids hate them, etc. Not all, but I would say a good 25%. To be honest, I was surprised at how many trainwrecks I have flown with only being with the airline for 15 months. With that being said, they have treated me well and are solid pilots, but I am not sure they could easily bring in capt pay in another industry.
That certainly hasn't been my experience over the last 14 years. Quite the opposite in fact. I'd wager that about half the CAs I fly with have something else going on in addition to flying.
Old 05-19-2015 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
There is no compensation quite like pride in ones work.

Dammit Clamp!





Palette cleansing time:





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Old 05-19-2015 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
That certainly hasn't been my experience over the last 14 years. Quite the opposite in fact. I'd wager that about half the CAs I fly with have something else going on in addition to flying.
Yep, not my experience either. We have some really smart and impressive people flying airplanes here. Course, there were a few that slipped through about 15 months ago.....

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Old 05-19-2015 | 06:18 PM
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Dammit Clamp!





Palette cleansing time:





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Thank you Carl!

I needed that!

And 80 Clamp... next time... warn us before you go posting pictures of Moderators!
Old 05-19-2015 | 06:26 PM
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Are we making a transition from underboob to overboob?

Old 05-19-2015 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by duece12345
You would think.....BUT,, I fly with guys that are complete life disasters quite frequently.. They could not hold a job as a Walmart cashier. The only reason they make the money they do is because they can pilot an airplane...that's it! Zero ability to interact with with people, Multiple divorces, kids hate them, etc. Not all, but I would say a good 25%. To be honest, I was surprised at how many trainwrecks I have flown with only being with the airline for 15 months. With that being said, they have treated me well and are solid pilots, but I am not sure they could easily bring in capt pay in another industry.

With your opinion of airline pilots, this guy might be able to use you:





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Old 05-19-2015 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
Yeah, what's the upgrade time? Or do we have to follow the typical career path, deckhand, first mate, chief engineer, captain?
I have a 100 ton master's ticket which with $2.00 will get a small decaf. Most good marine jobs are inside deals, if you check harbor pilots a lot of them have the same last name. The experience level is very high. Engineer is not a career path to deck officer. Sea time, like flight time is logged and verified. An All Oceans-Unlimited Tonnage license make you a minor god. The best part is: THE HAT IS OPTIONAL!
If you have an MSY layover, go down to the ribber and watch the BTR pilots change with the N.O. pilots at 6kts. on the rope ladder. Uniform is checked sports coat and a fedora. Smooth operators them pilots.
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