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Quick newbie non-rev question as the fam heads out on a trip tomorrow. Buddy-quette says "relaxed" dress code. Clean jeans and sneakers OK even if they get upgraded?
We're pretty conservative dressers in general and everytime they've traveled before even the kids have been in what would qualify in the FOM for business attire. But this time it's to a very casual destination and we're trying to pack as light as possible. I'm going in jumpseat-legal clothing just in case, but I figure no reason to pack another set of clothes and shoes for everyone else if not needed.
We're pretty conservative dressers in general and everytime they've traveled before even the kids have been in what would qualify in the FOM for business attire. But this time it's to a very casual destination and we're trying to pack as light as possible. I'm going in jumpseat-legal clothing just in case, but I figure no reason to pack another set of clothes and shoes for everyone else if not needed.
I would suggest you wear something acceptable for riding the jump seat. Just in case.
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Congratulations and I wish you well. ...looking for a company with $300k plus potential that never requires you to live where you work... never requires a move to keep a job.. almost no work to take home... Seriously? The CEO is in the office at 5:30 and you expect to be in ? Montana? OFG
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Typical. Quit or join us....don't complain....we know better....no transparency allows us to do what we want. Exactly the attitudes the cronies want to propagate.
If it weren't for guys like PD, the union would be a complete disaster of spending 100% of their time slapping each other on the back and figuring out how to scam more money while doing as little as possible to not rock the boat that contains the feed trough.
Getting called out is the only thing that keeps them moderately honest.
If it weren't for guys like PD, the union would be a complete disaster of spending 100% of their time slapping each other on the back and figuring out how to scam more money while doing as little as possible to not rock the boat that contains the feed trough.
Getting called out is the only thing that keeps them moderately honest.
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From: retired 767(dl)
Once upon a time, in a kingdom far away, before jump seat, just about everybody lived in base. There are still some diehards at ORD that meet once a week for pizza and milk..........
Congratulations and I wish you well. ...looking for a company with $300k plus potential that never requires you to live where you work... never requires a move to keep a job.. almost no work to take home... Seriously? The CEO is in the office at 5:30 and you expect to be in ? Montana? OFG
We are treated like easily replaced hourly labor so often that too many in the profession actually believe it. Set the specific aviation skill set aside, for a moment and realize what the average pilot brings to the world outside of the cockpit.
1. Above average intelligence.
2. Bachelor degree as a minimum often in technical fields.
3. The ability to make critical decisions under pressure.
4. Leadership skills for running a team of 5-15 people.
5. Willingness to work long hours to achieve a goal.
6. Above average hand/eye coordination.
7. Ability to communicate effectively and efficiently.
8. Confidence to safely operate complex multimillion dollar equipment.
9. Demonstrated the self discipline necessary to work with little direct supervision.
10. Looks good in the process of doing all of the above.
This is a recipe for success in many career fields and businesses. Our aviation specific stick and rudder skills are only part of the equation. I must confess, I've already started the backup plan, which is why I would quit rather than be forced to move to a current base. I've taken my own advice over the last several years and used savings, income and time off to create a backup plan of business and investments outside of this industry. It took half of the items from the list above to exceed my airline pay. They were 2, 4, 5 and married to 7 & 10 in my case.
It isn't that hard to build a backup plan outside of this career. This is my third of four six figure jobs. The first had nothing to do with aviation, the second one did and third one certainly does, the fourth one I created myself outside of aviation. Too many in this career sell themselves short on what they are capable of doing, so they never try something else.
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How much do APC moderators bring in a year?
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From: A350 Captain (RET)
Congratulations and I wish you well. ...looking for a company with $300k plus potential that never requires you to live where you work... never requires a move to keep a job.. almost no work to take home... Seriously? The CEO is in the office at 5:30 and you expect to be in ? Montana? OFG
My son works on the Mississippi River and there are several high school educated Captains pulling in more than $250K per year... thirty days on.. thirty days off. Insurance is paid... good 401K and when they are off the boat.... no other work until they get back on the boat. And yes, they can live where they want.
Oh.. did I mention the food!!! The Captain hires/fires the cook so you can imagine how good they eat!!
Fly safe,
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