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Old 05-19-2015 | 04:02 AM
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Does anyone know if we get a corporate discount on tickets to Disney parks and if so where to find out how to use it?
Maybe sorta. It's under Delta perks. I think it's more like discounts on multi day packages (5 day pass for price of 3). Link below is for FL, but they have stuff in California as well.

https://connect.delta.com/f5-w-68747470733a2f2f7777772e796f756465636964652e636f6d $$/pfs/content/templates/extras/index.html?extraDetail=disney.html&targDir=CONSSVC &extrasId=CONSSVC&extraID=EBG0000001&detailCat=eve nttheme&cacheId=0472407529
Old 05-19-2015 | 04:02 AM
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As long as there is iron clad language RE larger mainline A/C if we fly them. Otherwise we will see more downsizing. We all know how ironclad DALPA crafts the language RE scope/JV. I would be skeptical.
Not to mention the fact that it has already been proven the Co will violate the scope clause like it was simply a suggestion in the contract. I'm not feeling like giving more relief until we start complying with what we have now. Fool me once.......
Old 05-19-2015 | 05:37 AM
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Not to mention the fact that it has already been proven the Co will violate the scope clause like it was simply a suggestion in the contract. I'm not feeling like giving more relief until we start complying with what we have now. Fool me once.......
DALPA has never enforced the scope clause. They just amend it whenever the company wants to do something that doesn't comply.

We might as well just delete Section 1.

That would be more intellectually honest than going through the "constructive engagement" kabuki dance every few years.
Old 05-19-2015 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
DALPA has never enforced the scope clause. They just amend it whenever the company wants to do something that doesn't comply.

We might as well just delete Section 1.

That would be more intellectually honest than going through the "constructive engagement" kabuki dance every few years.
Yeah. DPJ, RAH, AF/KLM, etc.

How about in return each pilot chooses a section of the contact they get to ignore? Each month you bid a new section. Sounds fun.
Old 05-19-2015 | 07:03 AM
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Does anyone else find the timing of the rewritten Commuting Policy in the FOM (Ch. 11, Sec. 5) a bit suspicious? Maybe DALPA has a plan for some concessions to restore the status quo.

The removal of offline flights as a viable commuting option is a huge negative for NYC especially. What percentage of NYC based pilots use an offline commute as part of their plan with a Delta backup? How many former Dallas pilots commute on American with a Delta backup?

How many pilots are stuck with an AE from the last few bids they would not consider under the revised policy? I'll start the count at 1.
Old 05-19-2015 | 07:46 AM
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Does anyone else find the timing of the rewritten Commuting Policy in the FOM (Ch. 11, Sec. 5) a bit suspicious? Maybe DALPA has a plan for some concessions to restore the status quo.

The removal of offline flights as a viable commuting option is a huge negative for NYC especially. What percentage of NYC based pilots use an offline commute as part of their plan with a Delta backup? How many former Dallas pilots commute on American with a Delta backup?

How many pilots are stuck with an AE from the last few bids they would not consider under the revised policy? I'll start the count at 1.
I agree its a messed up rewrite. Non-sensical really.

But DALPA has nothing to do with the FOM. I'm sure there is a reason someone made a bad decision on the fourth floor to get a promotion. again. Like the dude that took transponders and beacons off the pushback checklist.
Old 05-19-2015 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
Does anyone else find the timing of the rewritten Commuting Policy in the FOM (Ch. 11, Sec. 5) a bit suspicious? Maybe DALPA has a plan for some concessions to restore the status quo.

The removal of offline flights as a viable commuting option is a huge negative for NYC especially. What percentage of NYC based pilots use an offline commute as part of their plan with a Delta backup? How many former Dallas pilots commute on American with a Delta backup?

How many pilots are stuck with an AE from the last few bids they would not consider under the revised policy? I'll start the count at 1.
The contractual commuter policy has not changed. The company can change other policies whenever they feel like it.
Old 05-19-2015 | 08:24 AM
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Yes, I understand the FOM is outside of the contract. I just find the timing of a stricter commuting policy interesting. Post two AE bids that involve making commuting decisions, then change the policy right before the most difficult time of year for commuting. Maintaining the status quo in the contract, can then be considered a "win" at the negotiating table for DALPA.

NYC is the most difficult base to staff and also has the largest number of offline commuters. Who is the genius that decided to make offline commuting less desirable? Many NYC commuting plans include a mix of JetBlue and American with Delta backups. Under the new policy American and Jet Blue are no longer options the company considers viable.
Old 05-19-2015 | 08:47 AM
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I agree its a messed up rewrite. Non-sensical really.

But DALPA has nothing to do with the FOM. I'm sure there is a reason someone made a bad decision on the fourth floor to get a promotion. again. Like the dude that took transponders and beacons off the pushback checklist.
Now that we all finally got used to it, let's put it back in the checklist.
Old 05-19-2015 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by marcal
Does anyone know if we get a corporate discount on tickets to Disney parks and if so where to find out how to use it?
I consider myself a disney expert. There are no discounted rates on disney tickets other than military and Florida resident. The hotel prices on property change with season and availability, but again they are no discounts. I highly recommend going in January, May, or September. Those are the least crowded months. It is always crowded. Over crowding takes the fun out of it. It's too much money to not have fun. The price on perks is the exact same price you will get at the park after paying the fee to the vendor.
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